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• SGTBilko 1,686 Posts

  Fri, Oct 1 2010 5:21 PM

  Ohh Please....Ism's have killed far more humans than religion. You know...Communism, Socialism, Fascism you should get the point. Yeah, that mother Teresa killed millions.She is right up there with Mao, Stalin and Hitler. What Ever!

• x1524807 776 Posts

  Fri, Oct 1 2010 5:31 PM

   

   

   

   

   

  SGTBilko:

  Ohh Please....Ism's have killed far more humans than religion. You know...Communism, Socialism, Fascism you should get the point. Yeah, that mother Teresa killed millions.She is right up there with Mao, Stalin and Hitler. What Ever!

  The French Wars of Religion 1562-1598--Protestants and Catholics
  
  Pacification of Ghent (quelling Protestant revolution) 1576
  
  Thirty Years War 1618-1648--It is fair to say, however, that this war was as much about politics as it was about religion.
  
  Holy wars--Crusades
  Holy wars usually have three elements:
  
  * the achievement of a religious goal
  * authorised by a religious leader
  * a spiritual reward for those who take part
  
  Many of the wars fought in the name of religion do conform to the just war conditions, but not all of them.
  
  In modern warfare, clashes are frequently described as being ethnic in origin, even though religion may have been a main cause.
  
  "The troubles" in Ireland are as much about religion as about political allegiances.
  
  The war in Bosnia-Herzegovina was among three faith groups, (Muslim, Roman Catholic, and Serbian Orthodox).
  
  The horrendous civil war in Sudan has a significant religious component.
  
  Ivory Coast--Following the elections in late 2000, government security forces "began targeting civilians solely and explicitly on the basis of their religion and ethnicity." Human Rights Watch
  
  East Timor--After voting for independence, many Christians were exterminated or exiled by the Indonesian army and army-funded militias in a carefully planned program of genocide and religious cleansing.
  
  Kosovo--Serbian Christians against Albanian Muslims.
  
  Chechnya--According to the Voice of the Martyrs: "In January 2002 Chechen rebels included all Christians on their list of official enemies, vowing to 'blow up every church and mission-related facility in Russia'."
  
  Uganda--Christian rebels of the Lord's Resistance Army are conducting a civil war in the north of Uganda. Their goal is a Christian theocracy whose laws are based on the Ten Commandments.

  Source(s):

  http://www.religioustolerance.org/curr_w…

  
  

  AS USUAL, YOU DO NOT DEAL IN FACTS LIKE ALL TEA BAGGERS, LIES GO FURTHER 

   

   

• x1524807 776 Posts

  Fri, Oct 1 2010 5:42 PM

  ALSO

  http://www.lepg.org/wars.htm

  Please stick to facts, not sarah palinism

• SGTBilko 1,686 Posts

  Fri, Oct 1 2010 5:47 PM

  Another person using sal alinsky's rules. Trying to make it personal. 

  1. Not a Tea Party Member - I am a constitutionalist.

  People's Republic of China
  Body Count: 73,237,000
  1949-Present (57+ years and counting)
  
   Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

  Body Count: 58,627,000
  1922-1991 (69 years)

  Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic 
  Body Count: 3,284,000
  1918-1922 (4 years)

  Democratic People's Republic of Korea
  Body Count: 3,163,000
  1948-Present (58+ years and counting)

  Cambodia
  Body Count: 2,627,000
  1975-1987 (12 years)

  and so on............

  Communist Body Count: 149,469,610 

  that's just communism....we could add the 8 million from Hitler in there as well

  I am not a religious person so I have no fight in this game but I think they have a long way to go to catch up to the Ism's of the world. I was not defending religion, just pointing out a fact that left leaning governments have killed far more humans than religion.

  Remember socialism and liberlism is not for the socialist or liberal, it only applies to the people.

  Sniff, Sniff Sal would be so proud of you! Keep those rules alive!

• SGTBilko 1,686 Posts

  Fri, Oct 1 2010 5:50 PM

  x1524807:

  ALSO

  http://www.lepg.org/wars.htm

  Please stick to facts, not sarah palinism

  ROLMAO

  Pot.....this is kettle...how copy over! 

  Sarah Palinism.........ROFLMAO! Not a fan. But keep those Sal Alinsky attacks going! 

  Ohh My side is killing me from laughing so hard! I'm not really religious that is what I find funny. 

• x1524807 776 Posts

  Fri, Oct 1 2010 5:56 PM

  SGTBilko:

  Sniff, Sniff Sal would be so proud of you! Keep those rules alive!

  your numbers come from rand paul, so please give us your source for your post. Easy to post, but hard to prove. I shall await your post with someone who backs up your claims, and by the way, hitler accounted for over 30000000, counting the armies and citizens of the countries.

  You forgot the ten billion that shawn hannity killed, you see, I can do the same thing

• x1524807 776 Posts

  Fri, Oct 1 2010 6:00 PM

  SGTBilko:

  Sniff, Sniff Sal would be so proud of you! Keep those rules alive!

  by the way, what you are quoting has nothing to do with wars, IT IS INTERNAL POWER GRAB. Do you know the difference?

  You forgot to mention your leader, GWB, who accounted for 1 million in Iraq

• SGTBilko 1,686 Posts

  Fri, Oct 1 2010 6:10 PM

  Okay....stop you are killing me. Yes if you count the armies of other countries you are correct. But please stop with the Alinsky tactics they are shameless. For the record I am not a Hannity fan a bit to same track all the time. Not a libertarian their views of not getting involved are wrong, not a Rush fan or Levin either. Like Andrew Wilkow when he is right about how the constitution SHOULD work. Beck.......he occasionally has a good point but the religious thing.....not me.Tea Party...some good ideas when it comes to the constitution. I especially like the fact they have no centralized leader which makes them harder to attack, but not a real fan I can take them or leave them. Vehemently opposed to all forms of liberalism/socialism.  I read a lot but most of the books I read are mostly older than me 40+. But please stop trying to label me, that stuff does not work with me.
  References

  
  BBC News (2000, April 6). Flashback 1984: portrait of a famine. Retrieved May 7, 2006, fromhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/703958.stm

  Chang, Jung, & Halliday, Jon (2005). Mao: the unknown story (1st American ed.). New York: Alfred A Knopf.

  Courtois, S., Werth, N., Panne, J., Paczkowski, A., Bartosek, K., & Margolin, J. (1999). The black book of Communism: crimes, terror, repression. United States: Harvard University Press.

  Rummel, R. J. (1994). Death by government. New Brunswick, NJ: Transaction Publishers.

  Rummel, R. J. (1996). Lethal politics: Soviet genocide and mass murder since 1917 (1st paperback ed.). New Brunswick, NJ: Transaction Publishers.

  Rummel, R. J. (2005, November 20). Reevaluating China's democide to be 73,000,000. Retrieved April 5, 2006, from http://freedomspeace.blogspot.com/2005/11/reevaluating-chinas-democide-to-be.html

  Rummel, R. J. (1997). Statistics of democide: genocide and mass murder since 1900. Charlottesville, Virginia: Transaction Publishers.

  U.S. Committee for Human Rights in North Korea (2006). Failure to protect: a call for the UN Security Council to act in North Korea. United States: DLA Piper.

  Young, Lance S. (1991). Mozambique's sixteen-year bloody civil war. Retrieved November 1, 2006, fromhttp://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1991/YLS.htm

• SGTBilko 1,686 Posts

  Fri, Oct 1 2010 6:17 PM

  x1524807:

  SGTBilko:

  Sniff, Sniff Sal would be so proud of you! Keep those rules alive!

  by the way, what you are quoting has nothing to do with wars, IT IS INTERNAL POWER GRAB. Do you know the difference?

  You forgot to mention your leader, GWB, who accounted for 1 million in Iraq

  Was not a fan ow GW, he was not a conservative at all. Clinton was more conservative than he was. Nice Try! Stop your are embarrassing yourself! PS! I fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.......Did 2 tours in Iraq, those counts are bloated. 

  I never said anything about a war, never talked about a war. The quote was that religion is a crime against humanity. I said Ism's are far more criminal. You were talking about war, not me! Yeap that Bachelor of Science in Military Science was not for nothing, they did teach me a few things....LMBO! You are funny, I give you credit!

  Are you a community Organizer? ROFLMBO!

   

• CharlemagneRH 1,054 Posts

  Fri, Oct 1 2010 6:32 PM

  x1524807:

  hitler accounted for over 30000000, counting the armies and citizens of the countries.

  Britain actually picked that fight.  Hitler was a bit of a ***, but Churchill started the war.  Churchill was an alcoholic warmonger that liked to grin with his nose up high while puffing a cigar.  Hitler was a fascist, which in and of itself is a pretty bad thing, but if it weren't for Churchill, WWII probably would've been... well... certainly not a "world war."

  You are correct to say that Bush is responsible for a million in Iraq, though, but Clinton also had a million in Iraq of his own, through sanctions.  Bush Sr. had another 200,000 (?) in Iraq, and Reagan was an absolute monster.  I don't know that he would surpass Bush Jr. in numbers, and it was mostly done via puppet governments that we controlled, but in terms of how many countries he was conducting operations in, he quite possibly tops the list.