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What does this diagram tell me?

• viciii3 766 Posts

  Fri, Jul 4 2014 11:01 PM

  

• alosso 21,092 Posts

  Fri, Jul 4 2014 11:30 PM

  Where is it from?

  It looks like a WGT flag but makes no sense to me in WGT terms.

  IRL, I'd say they have three areas of pin positions (different sorting for each hole) and show a sign "Today pin position is #(3)" at the counter. Alas, three yardages (right) aren't common. I'd expect an overall length and width of the green displayed. As a super comfy item, an indication of pin positions like "12 (ft) in, 5 right" on the scorecard would denote a precise hole location.

• TopShelf2010 10,975 Posts

  Sat, Jul 5 2014 12:24 AM

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• alosso 21,092 Posts

  Sat, Jul 5 2014 2:10 AM

  +1, but which course and hole?

  Ah, it's from the hole info of KIA#1!

  There, the green is approx. 30 yds deep and the front flag is about 10 yds from the front green edge, see replay.

  Thus, an "information" giving three different green fractions and an erroneous total depth of 46 yds looks useless and wrong to me.

  At least the region of the front flag is correct, alas unprecise.

  What to read from it, as the OP asked? Nothing, unfortunately. The precise information is given with the "distance from the hole" at the mini-map's blue dot and (mostly) at the upper screen edge. For green dimensions, take the reverse green view.

  BTW: These measurements are ommited on other courses.

• alberich35 858 Posts

  Sat, Jul 5 2014 2:17 AM

  WTF ?

  Many holes havent this kind of informations (STA havent meanwhile greens are the largest of alls), so why KIA #1 which have not very different slopes but only smalls traitors breaks ?

• mel1950 2,887 Posts

  Sat, Jul 5 2014 4:20 AM

  I think you will find that Kiawah was one of the, (If not the first) course that WGT put on.. They probably thought (wrongly) that this info was helpful... The diagram does not show any deviations in the green and gives a totally wrong perception of it.

  The best way of learning is to play it and see.. Take your own notes and remember form your mistakes..

  They also made the fatal mistake, on this course especially, of giving you the totally wrong view when putting.. Best way is to putt from behind the hole!!!

  Mel

• TDSLIMIT 409 Posts

  Sat, Jul 5 2014 5:28 AM

  viciii3:

  

   

  Perhaps there is something to be gained from this.    Why cant WGT have 3 different pin positions on every hole.  As shown in the diagram.  They show they can do it by zones.       Change them around on a daily basis.    One day the pin is located in zone 3  then tomorrow the pin is set to be in position 2.     Could this be done?  And if so it could make the game a bit more challenging.   Especially to those players who seem to have a good read on most of these pin locations.   You hear it from time to time players mentioning new pin positions.   The same pins get old after a while.  And If your like me sometimes I can hit these approach shots blind folded being so use to the pins.   Just an idea.  Seems as if WGT has a diagram already.   How hard would it be to switch pin locations on a daily basis by zones?     Not sure if this is possible.   As when you change a pin position it is obviously going to change how far the hole plays.  Either making the hole longer or shorter from the day before.   I really like this idea.   It will keep players guessing and this way tee boxes never have to be backed up again.  Due to pins being moved holes should play longer on some days and shorter other days.      Cheers  Doc     

• alberich35 858 Posts

  Sat, Jul 5 2014 6:44 AM

  WGT has not 3 sets of pins on each course.

  In fact nobody knows what this scheme is supposed to give us. Perhaps the guy who begin to make them is gone and no one WGT staff member understand what he was trying to do.

  A quick search on the forum ... Some threads about this ... and no one WGTxxxx nickname post on them. uh uh ....

  Anymay most of holes havent this scheme. More the other informations given are sometimes wrong (distances to pin).

  This information panel has only one purpose: to light a cigarette, well sit down and get ready to shoot.

• TDSLIMIT 409 Posts

  Sat, Jul 5 2014 7:26 AM

  I think I saw somewhere once.  The diagram and its numbers means  the yardage within each zone.   

• ApexPC 3,164 Posts

  Sat, Jul 5 2014 8:30 AM

  TDSLIMIT:

  Why cant WGT have 3 different pin positions on every hole.

  Probably because they don't have the 10's of thousands of photographs needed of each golf course to add the extra hole placements to each course.

  It's also likely few of the golf courses are willing to shut down again so WGT can make the needed photographs.