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New course from St Andrews Links

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Tue, Jul 15 2014 5:55 AM

  alanti:

  Come on people, there is an easy way to get new courses on WGT!

  WGTadmin2:

  Sorry I do not see another UK course on the roadmap, but if you call your favorite course and ask them to join WGT it could help.

  WGTadmin2:

  Just send a note to the course general manager and tell them there is a great golf game out there with millions of golfers and they should have their course featured next to the top courses in the world.

  LMFAO

  Did Admin2 delete the replies

• alosso 21,072 Posts

  Tue, Jul 15 2014 6:12 AM

  They are from a different, earlier thread.

• MartyFlanagan 2,488 Posts

  Tue, Jul 15 2014 6:50 PM

  WoodenHands:

  The New and Jubilee are tougher courses IRL, would have been good to see them on here too.

  i read online that they are tougher and that the new course is the locals favourite. they may not have hosted a big tournament but they would be a great addition to wgt. if st andrews links likes wgt and get on well with them why not photograph some of the other courses and add them to wgt.

• zagraniczniak 1,984 Posts

  Wed, Jul 16 2014 5:34 AM

  There is another course at St. Andrews for which WGT already has the photos!

  It is the Old Course in Reverse.

  As we know, the Old Course is designed to be played in two different ways - the same loop played in the opposite direction. (1st tee to 17th green, 18th tee to 16th green, etc. (a little complicated around the turn), ending in 2nd tee to 18th green.)

  Take the photos you already have and lay out the reverse loop: BINGO! New course!

   

   

• WoodenHands 526 Posts

  Wed, Jul 16 2014 6:59 AM

  MartyFlanagan:

  i read online that they are tougher and that the new course is the locals favourite. they may not have hosted a big tournament but they would be a great addition to wgt. if st andrews links likes wgt and get on well with them why not photograph some of the other courses and add them to wgt.

  Yeah, the New is a much better course, if only they'd photographed it at the same time we'd have another course and it wouldn't have cost them too much extra.

   

   

• MainzMan 9,591 Posts

  Wed, Jul 16 2014 7:47 AM

  zagraniczniak:

  There is another course at St. Andrews for which WGT already has the photos!

  It is the Old Course in Reverse.

  As we know, the Old Course is designed to be played in two different ways - the same loop played in the opposite direction. (1st tee to 17th green, 18th tee to 16th green, etc. (a little complicated around the turn), ending in 2nd tee to 18th green.)

  Take the photos you already have and lay out the reverse loop: BINGO! New course!

  Now that would be interesting. 

  I had no idea about this, thanks for enlightening me.

• zagraniczniak 1,984 Posts

  Wed, Jul 16 2014 8:38 AM

  MainzMan:

  zagraniczniak:

  There is another course at St. Andrews for which WGT already has the photos!

  It is the Old Course in Reverse.

  As we know, the Old Course is designed to be played in two different ways - the same loop played in the opposite direction. (1st tee to 17th green, 18th tee to 16th green, etc. (a little complicated around the turn), ending in 2nd tee to 18th green.)

  Take the photos you already have and lay out the reverse loop: BINGO! New course!

  Now that would be interesting. 

  I had no idea about this, thanks for enlightening me.

  It's well documented online, at the St. Andrew's website and elsewhere. Apparently the course is set up to play this way in real life like one day per year. It's probably a little impractical in real life because it would apparently involve cutting across some fairways. But all of that is fine online. It would open up a new experience rarely otherwise available and thus make the best use of online capabilities.

  Maybe players could start pushing for this solution?

  It would sure get lots of attention for World Golf Tour!

   

• alosso 21,072 Posts

  Wed, Jul 16 2014 10:47 AM

  Here's from a good article with history and presence, golf-spelled-backwards-is-fun-the-old-course-in-reverse:

  I did the Old Course in Reverse this year (2008) and it was awesome. Despite the fact that they do it every year, and have actual yardage books for it (the Scots have a different word for everything, so it is Strokesaver) and scorecards, they make no sense and even the caddies are badly confused. The result is a lot of blind shots, vague yardage guesses, and people hitting into one another – head on. I have never played a more dangerous round of golf in my life, heard “fore!’ yelled more, or had such a good time

  (it's a few tracks crossing each other)

• MainzMan 9,591 Posts

  Wed, Jul 16 2014 11:17 AM

  Fascinating!  And very interesting to play I bet.  The course would be soooo much longer.  Just taking the backwards 2nd hole as an example.  Tee off from the 18th tee, over the 17th green, down the 17th fairway and past the tee box to the 16th green.  Wow, that would be one long hole and most of them would play long as the tee boxes would be behind the green you'd just putted out on.  Then the green is past the tee box for the fairway you're playing down.  Or up.

  If this were Links we could try it, you could play to wherever you wanted on that.

  I have no idea whether it would be technically possible for WGT, most of the fairway cameras would be facing the wrong way but it would be brilliant to try it.

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Wed, Jul 16 2014 11:31 AM

  zagraniczniak:

  It is the Old Course in Reverse.

  As we know, the Old Course is designed to be played in two different ways - the same loop played in the opposite direction. (1st tee to 17th green, 18th tee to 16th green, etc. (a little complicated around the turn), ending in 2nd tee to 18th green.)

  Take the photos you already have and lay out the reverse loop: BINGO! New course!

  A very interesting idea zags!  And a very good one IMO.

  Here's an article on hole by hole Reverse Course routing.

  Worth consideration by the WGT Game architects I think.  A bit of a challenge for them to figure out which photos to use on the new hole.  Using the new reverse #1 hole for example...

  Play from the current 1st tee to the current 17th hole.

  Tee shot using current 1st hole photo(s)

  Ball in flight landing in current 1st fairway or even current 18th fairway. These would be the aerial helicopter shots looking back to the 1st tee and looking back to the current 18th tee.

  Approach shot to the 17the green from either the current 18th fairway or current 1st fairway.  Since neither set of photos point towards the 17th green we'd have to be satisfied with off angle views of the pin on the approach.  And I imagine the use of aerial shots in many cases.

  That would be OK with me as it increases the challenge of the shot.

  To give you an idea of what I'm saying, here's a couple of "mock-up" approaches to the 17th green using reverse angle photos from tees shots off the current 18th tee.

  Click the image for a larger view

  

  

  IMO, these are playable views.  If, and a big if perhaps, all the holes work out as well then the approach shots aren't a problem.

  The above photos, currently assigned to the current 18th hole would need to be re-assigned to the new Reverse hole #1.

  Shots of a ball landing on the 17th green from the locations shown in the pics above should be possible using the existing photos of the 17th green.  Reassign those to Reverse hole #1.

  Putts should be fine using the existing photos of the pins on the 17th green.  Again reassign those to Reverse hole #1

  Of course, just because it apparently works on the first hole doesn't guarantee it will work on all holes.

  But worth a look-see by the WGT game architects.