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Humans are fools.

• 1,148 Posts

  Thu, Jul 17 2014 3:30 PM

  We are limited by our language. A macro one at that. We are limited by resolution of our language which drive our thinking.

  We can dream all we want about universe , god , infinity.  We are just a frog in the well thinking it is emperor of the universe. 

  We are fools by nature. More we learn more foolish we become. More we think we know more we become stagnant of the beliefs we recently acquired.

  Everything we absorb we become that. Once it is absorbed , it become parasite and it will never leave.unless there is a shock to the system.

  We argue , fight for our masters ( the belief parasite that we acquired) endlessly and even kill each other. 

  Body is only absolute truth not the beliefs. Even enlightened prophet has to take a dump every day , if that does not tell you something...

   

• unclenewy 334 Posts

  Thu, Jul 17 2014 7:10 PM

  Put that spliff out mate.............go to bed.

• mkg335 5,491 Posts

  Thu, Jul 17 2014 7:25 PM

  Language is actually what frees the imagination and the mind and makes it possible to unite individual minds/brains so that the whole of the species becomes greater than the sum of its parts.

  The internet is becoming the realization of what Emerson called the oversoul, although he didn't foresee that lmao would become its mantra.

• 1,148 Posts

  Fri, Jul 18 2014 12:02 PM

  humans are free from as they learn things in overall. But its an illusion of freedom. Once you think deep you will understand. 

  If you can only imagine a world where there is no language but people transfer thoughts through energy ( radia waves) :) 

  May be animals doing it because they have not created language by accident?. Most descriptive language will be shortcut sounds eventually because lifeforms are by nature conservative with how much energy he spends in speaking. Eventual destination is soundless communication.

• mkg335 5,491 Posts

  Fri, Jul 18 2014 12:45 PM

  Suggested reading:

  The Symbolic Species:  The Co-Evolution of Language and the Brain (Terrence W. Deacon)

  Basically, humans are the only animals that possess sophisticated language because of the evolutionary development of a tertiary cortex in our ape-brain.  It's what Merlin Donald calls "the executive suite" in his book  A Mind so Rare: The Evolution of Human Consciousness and makes possible, among other things, the use and recognition of symbols.

  This ability to use symbols opens up virtually unlimited modes of thinking and cooperation, and allows knowledge to be passed along through generations, so that everything doesn't have to be re-learned with each generation...unlike other species, where "it's always the same rat that gets killed by the trap."

  Here's the book at amazon

  And here's an interview with Deacon

• 1,148 Posts

  Fri, Jul 18 2014 12:53 PM

  There are many branches of evolution. What ever language we use now eventually we have to evolve into using less energy for communication which will result in super telepathy.

  As humans rule earth because we created language to communicate with each other and enchanced our networking. That is all true.

  Storing data can still be in language but communication has to be less energy consumed mode and eventually its telepathy. 

  Because evolution do not stop anywhere. its constant quest for energy conservation.

   

• mkg335 5,491 Posts

  Fri, Jul 18 2014 1:13 PM

  It's important to realize that evolution is a "dumb process."  By that I mean it's not driven by anything resembling intelligence but by dumb, brutal trial-and-error that results in many blind alleys and failed species.

• 1,148 Posts

  Fri, Jul 18 2014 1:26 PM

  True but it has a rule. Save energy. Short cut to conservation. 

  More kinda fuzzy logic in that sense it picks shortest route. Permutation and combination. 

  Question is , is it serial or parallel?. :) 

  Feedback?. 

  Infinitsimal possiblities. 

  For me intelligence is kinda overrated. 

  Core of core is always energy conservation.  You can add many layers on top of it and it become intelligence. :)

• mkg335 5,491 Posts

  Fri, Jul 18 2014 1:38 PM

  I think you're conflating the process of evolution with Newton's 2nd Law, which would constitute a category mistake...makes for interesting conversation nonetheless...

  ;-)

• SweetiePie 4,925 Posts

  Fri, Jul 18 2014 1:52 PM

  alexk345:

  We are fools by nature

  Not all, just the ones who bought that "Hope and Change" manure pitch from the 'Stoop-nagel", when in fact it is " Shame and Embarrassment" not realized since the days of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego.