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uneven lies virtual open championship 2015

• MartyFlanagan 2,488 Posts

  Sat, Jul 19 2014 12:00 AM

  any chance we could get a uneven lies virtual open championship next year, two rounds of 18 holes using both sets of pins on st andrews?

  you could set up a few small tournaments were we could try to qualify (single play format) in the weeks leading up to it.

  st andrews is a great course for uneven lies, if you call it the Open Championship you might get some brownie points from the R & A.

   

• 9,041 Posts

  Sat, Jul 19 2014 3:27 AM

  MartyFlanagan:

  any chance we could get a uneven lies virtual open championship next year, two rounds of 18 holes using both sets of pins on st andrews?

  you could set up a few small tournaments were we could try to qualify (single play format) in the weeks leading up to it.

  Sounds a plan to me.....

• AgentBrown123 907 Posts

  Sat, Jul 19 2014 10:27 AM

  IMO, uneven lies needs ALOT of work before it can be used in an open like tournament on here. It's fine from the fairways. But it is way too strong in bunkers and some areas around the green where you use chip, pitch, flop... etc. When you have a 10 yard bunker shot and you have to hit it for 80 yards - something is wrong with that. It's just luck at that point.

• MartyFlanagan 2,488 Posts

  Sat, Jul 19 2014 5:21 PM

  AgentBrown123:

  IMO, uneven lies needs ALOT of work before it can be used in an open like tournament on here. It's fine from the fairways. But it is way too strong in bunkers and some areas around the green where you use chip, pitch, flop... etc. When you have a 10 yard bunker shot and you have to hit it for 80 yards - something is wrong with that. It's just luck at that point.

  it depends of the lie just like real golf some lies are harder then others, using chip and pitch shots is not that bad around the greens, for a 10yd bunker shot on a big yellow lie you should use the 41 punch 85% fts power lands 9yd goes 12 -14yd depending on the green. big red lies in bunkers your probably better off using your pw and pitching it,

  i always try to get 100% GIR then i dont have to worry about the rough or the sand

• MartyFlanagan 2,488 Posts

  Sat, Jul 19 2014 5:29 PM

  you could set it up as a wgt nation tournament if that would make things easier, then you dont have to have extra prizes, just have a credits for qualifying and credits for the actual tournament.

• mmyers0 478 Posts

  Sat, Jul 19 2014 6:41 PM

  AgentBrown123:

  IMO, uneven lies needs ALOT of work before it can be used in an open like tournament on here. It's fine from the fairways. But it is way too strong in bunkers and some areas around the green where you use chip, pitch, flop... etc. When you have a 10 yard bunker shot and you have to hit it for 80 yards - something is wrong with that. It's just luck at that point.

  Have you hit from an upslope in a real-life bunker before? I always have difficulty getting the ball to the hole, so this feels pretty natural to me.

  In WGT, just hit it twice as hard as normal for a yellow lie and 5x for a red and your distance should be pretty close.

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sat, Jul 19 2014 7:46 PM

  AgentBrown nailed it basically.  I would say Fways are OK but get closer in it's just zany luck of the draw.  

  It's not ready for such a title as VUSO.  The market will decide of course, but I would be surprised if the interest is massive, and the leaderboards would be the same anyway (good players hit the greens more, and so take the zany UEL stuff out more).

• MartyFlanagan 2,488 Posts

  Sat, Jul 19 2014 8:41 PM

  Jimbog1964:

  AgentBrown nailed it basically.  I would say Fways are OK but get closer in it's just zany luck of the draw.  

  It's not ready for such a title as VUSO.  The market will decide of course, but I would be surprised if the interest is massive, and the leaderboards would be the same anyway (good players hit the greens more, and so take the zany UEL stuff out more).

  im not suggesting it for the us open im suggesting it for the open championship, the uneven lies on wgt will probably not be improved you just have to hit fairways and greens to give you the best chance of success, its not too hard to play from the sand and rough around the greens on uneven lies, you just have to practice the shots. st andrews is a great course for uneven lies, there is not much thinking involved playing on even lies, its always driver off the tees with no course management.

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sat, Jul 19 2014 9:28 PM

  MartyFlanagan:

  im suggesting it for the open championship,

  I am never against choice.  Those that want UEL I wish you well.

  MartyFlanagan:

  st andrews is a great course for uneven lies, there is not much thinking involved playing on even lies, its always driver off the tees with no course management.

  II get where you are going.  I do think this game can be over thought though. To score really well (WGT low well) takes ability in flat lies.  

  Since they dropped the whacko effect of the angles on the fways (that was just computer game nonsense) that part is OK.  There is an issue with some of the closer in stuff though.  I get it that the answer is to keep it flat (know your yardages basically which is same for both).  .  

  I would say UELs has the issue of reducing some close in stuff to luck too much, but an UELs player may say well do not bring it in to play.  Go round all day like that:)

  At the end of the day it's a computer game and if you can play UELs you can play flat and vice versa, and so which ever version floats your boat at the end of the day.

   

• MartyFlanagan 2,488 Posts

  Sat, Jul 19 2014 9:56 PM

  Jimbog1964:

  MartyFlanagan:

  im suggesting it for the open championship,

  I am never against choice.  Those that want UEL I wish you well.

  MartyFlanagan:

  st andrews is a great course for uneven lies, there is not much thinking involved playing on even lies, its always driver off the tees with no course management.

  I get where you are going.  I do think this game can be over thought though. To score really well (WGT low well) takes ability in flat lies.  

  Since they dropped the whacko effect of the angles on the fways (that was just computer game nonsense) that part is OK.  There is an issue with some of the closer in stuff though.  I get it that the answer is to keep it flat (know your yardages basically which is same for both).  .  

  I would say UELs has the issue of reducing some close in stuff to luck too much, but an UELs player may say well do not bring it in to play.  Go round all day like that:)

  At the end of the day it's a computer game and if you can play UELs you can play flat and vice versa, and so which ever version floats your boat at the end of the day.

  a bit of variety on wgt would be nice to see, i played probably 900+ rounds on even lies and got to legend now i want to try and get good at uneven lies and improve my average. most of my best rounds have come on uneven lies which is a bit strange, i feel less pressure to do well on uneven lies, on even lies you need to birdy every hole to do well on wgt tournaments and CC tournaments.

  you should give uneven lies another chance, planning your way around a course is good fun.