DodgyPutter:The point about muddy (football) pitches is getting silly. Of course they still happen, in the UK we have rain/sleet/snow (the last two mostly in winter)
Have you ever been to a top game after 1971??
Go round in circles. Teams (football) DO NOT play on muddy pitches like they used to. Reason is it is not a test of skill like a good pitch. I grew up in England and been to many many matches.
Say I am misquoting by highlighting all you want, any coach will tell you only good surfaces test a good team. I have been around football much, spoke to many coaches about the state of many pitches (below EPL which is what they use to compare them to). 1970s pitches NO LONGER exist at elite level - simple!
"The pitch at Villa Park is 98% sand and because of that, you don’t get that dirt or waterlogging"
Jonathan Calderwood
Don't believe me read read Premier League.com where they are comparing pitches to golf greens, and freely stating how important that is. Summer growth in December etc etc...
DodgyPutter: "Skill must be tested" but part of being a great football team is an ability to win on muddy fields.
No highlights and all there, just incase. Your statement is still wrong. EPL grounds are almost billiard boards all year round - see above. Millions spent keeping them like that. Above vid was a muddy field, and you do not see that in elite football now for a good reason, and that is not just because it looks pretty. Repeating the obvious.
Anyway 3 woods:
You like the R11S and that is fine - great club. I went with the BB L89 for the extra distance accepting the lack of forgiveness if I miss. I accept the higher test of skill for the greater possible reward, and you go with the lazier action. On a good day I win when the club behaves. That's the point as the club does not behave often enough.
DodgyPutter: You want to give it the same accuracy as the most accurate Irons
Show me where I said that? I said a 5 precision 3W. I never referred to irons, and I would not (FYI) expect a 3 wood to perform exactly that way anyway.
DodgyPutter: Me too, to those with great timing and cheats with software.
BIG ASSUMPTION!!!!!!
Well if someone can't ding as well (play as well) I don't see that as reason to assume cheating because some one happens to play better.
Any ding SW will make mince meat of this game (often) enough regardless. That is a problem I could not agree more, but not a reason to penalise the genuine player who wants to test themselves.
I do not want any 245 yard 3W having more forgiveness at all, and so we fundamentally disagree on that point as to what we want. Dress it up how you like a BB 3W with 245 yards, 4.5 precision would be easier to hit (use) than the current one. I do not want that at all, and feel the game does not need easier anything.
I do strongly feel the current L89 BB 3W wanders off line too much too often when dinged though (accepting the less forgiveness when not creamed mind).
Dress it up how you like or not a BB 3W with 245 yards, 4.5 precision, 1.5 spin, and more forgiveness would be easier to hit (use) than the current one,
The game would therefore be less reliant on the ding, and the ding (not spraying it) is a big part of this game. It would therefore muddy the water between skill levels - simple stuff.
You would like that club (and by definition would at least like easier to use and for all skill levels thrown more in the mix therefore), but I disagree that there is a need for that and think that easier anything is absolutely not what the game needs. Like I say I am all for another with more precision but the test, as discussed, must be in place always and WTFs will happen still accepted.
No edits, no highlights (save one which seemed fair), no "putting words in your mouth, just plain simple stuff. I do not agree with making it easier, and your suggestion would do that and also muddy the water between skill levels, and that's not wanted here IMO..