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• AgentBrown123 907 Posts

  Wed, Sep 10 2014 8:14 PM

  No, the reason you're having problems is because you blame your mistakes on the game. That's why you will never be better than average. 

  You have a 1.65 putts per hole average, and 14 ft too pin, which is terrible. If you did your mappings correctly and know how certain holes play in a head or tail wind than you wouldn't be having a problem.

  But what you'll probably do is ignore what I said and keep blaming wgt for your bad play.

  Meh

• RKPayne 213 Posts

  Wed, Sep 10 2014 8:15 PM

  ShadyShank:

  And I know there are plenty TL's who play as I and others do.

  I agree completely Shady..I'm not TL yet, but working for it. I did come from hack to legend with just your type of play. No calculating, just feel. I am also a feel putter...miss-the-ding and decide how much to miss it depending on the speed of the dots. Strictly feel. Either way works fine, it's just what you get used to early on. However, I never worry about VEM very much. I know it exist, and i know it does affect play. But, I figure in most cases whatever score I make is primarily based on the quality of my play for that round. (Except when I shot my first 27 recently...maybe VEM helped me out there!!  lol)

  Cheers...Fairways & Greens

  Bob

   

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Thu, Sep 11 2014 4:38 AM

  Hack to Legend feel can get you there.  If you want to do better at Legend listen to AB IMHO.  

  I may not do it as well as him, but 14 and 15 distances to the pin / not good one putts stats would not have improved by feel alone for me from the tips. 

• tdonm 177 Posts

  Thu, Sep 11 2014 8:28 AM

  You are right, I will ignore your unwanted advice.  I didn't ask for it. All I did was offer an opinion on the subject. It didn't happen to agree with your know-it-all opinion, so you want immediately tell me what's wrong with me.  You don't know anything about me..

• Thudman69 47 Posts

  Thu, Sep 11 2014 9:46 AM

  AgentBrown123:

  No, the reason you're having problems is because you blame your mistakes on the game. That's why you will never be better than average. 

  You have a 1.65 putts per hole average, and 14 ft too pin, which is terrible. If you did your mappings correctly and know how certain holes play in a head or tail wind than you wouldn't be having a problem.

  But what you'll probably do is ignore what I said and keep blaming wgt for your bad play.

  Meh

  No no no. You're absolutely right. I obviously forgot how to play and needed to blame someone for my ineptitude. Thank you for setting me straight. Does this look infected to you?

• Thudman69 47 Posts

  Thu, Sep 11 2014 9:55 AM

  Jimbog1964:

  Hack to Legend feel can get you there.  If you want to do better at Legend listen to AB IMHO.  

  I may not do it as well as him, but 14 and 15 distances to the pin / not good one putts stats would not have improved by feel alone for me from the tips. 

  Right, like I said. I obviously forgot how to play. Seeing as I was consistently shooting 60 +/- and have been shooting 64+/- consistently for the better part of the year, obviously its me. I'm not bitching about not shooting low 50s, I'm bitching about the game having changed somehow as I'm no longer shooting what I know I can shoot consistently and my clubs not doing what they were doing.  I can't remember the last time I shot a 29 or better over 9. But whatever. They can crank the VEM, not crank the VEM, it's all the same to me in the end as they won't be seeing any more of my cash.

• harrythehaat 28 Posts

  Thu, Sep 11 2014 10:14 AM

  yabba dabba doo

• AgentBrown123 907 Posts

  Thu, Sep 11 2014 4:20 PM

  tdonm:

  You are right, I will ignore your unwanted advice.  I didn't ask for it. All I did was offer an opinion on the subject. It didn't happen to agree with your know-it-all opinion, so you want immediately tell me what's wrong with me.  You don't know anything about me..

  It wasn't advice and wasn't meant to be, it was the truth. It's not being a know at all. I'm tired of reading people blaming their bad play on the game when it's their own fault.

  Man up

• fatdan 3,379 Posts

  Thu, Sep 11 2014 4:54 PM

  harrythehaat:

   and i am a GREAT putter. my putts dont fall in anymore, ever,

  i am hitting ding, using same percentages and aiming same way. I POSTED BELOW 30 1 F'ING TIME IN 5 YEARS

   

  aaaaaaah, could you define GREAT? I mean, isn't the putt going in like the most important part of GREAT putting?

   

• siggipj76 2,989 Posts

  Thu, Sep 11 2014 5:13 PM

  This is funny !!! 

  Listen to the great players or blame it on something else ! 

  rolling eyes here !