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• RoggRR 635 Posts

  Wed, Feb 17 2016 9:29 AM

  Percycat:

  I've only been playing WGT for 2 and a half years and I just wondered if anyone else has played a shot like this.

  76yds, 60 wedge with 3.5 spin, full back spin, ball 0 spin.

                         Has this happened to anyone else?

  Please let me know if you have.

  I've played a little real golf and I just don't think this is possible.

  Percy

   

  i did 2, the same as your, in february ... i've never seen it before

  kia, 10 days ago : http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=2e73f819-617b-4e57-a74b-a5a30171efe0

  pebble, yesterday:

  http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=0bdeed88-7159-4b45-8c4e-a5ae01697b81

• garyk49 2,331 Posts

  Wed, Feb 17 2016 10:29 AM

  Percycat:

  Thanks Gary, I've never really thought about the rigidity of the flagsticks, I've hit them many times but this is the first time one of them has hit the ball nearly halfway back to me :-)

  What puzzles me is that if I hadn't hit the pin the ball would have landed about a yard past and maybe spun back a little or rolled on some more. After it hit the flagstick the ball came down almost vertically then shoots back some 25 yards until the hillock stops it. Maybe it was the spin on the ball, who knows? As you say "All bets are off as to where it may end up."

   

  Thanks too to Jay, what a fantastic video!!!!

  Think about it this way, as in the game of pool.  No english on the ball, hit into a cushion. Ball comes off the cushion at about the same angle as it went in.  Take a close up of your ball hitting the pin and you will see the angle on to the pin and the angle off are about the same.

  Most high spin wedges will put spin on the ball all by them self.  Closer you get to 100% of rated distance of the club, you actually have to put top spin on the ball to make it stop close to where it lands. To prove this to yourself, hit a full wedge onto a flat green with no ball back spin.  Watch the ball backup.

  On the good side of this you had the wind and distance pretty much correct.

• Percycat 2,050 Posts

  Wed, Feb 17 2016 12:38 PM

  garyk49:

  Think about it this way, as in the game of pool.  No english on the ball, hit into a cushion. Ball comes off the cushion at about the same angle as it went in.  Take a close up of your ball hitting the pin and you will see the angle on to the pin and the angle off are about the same.

  Most high spin wedges will put spin on the ball all by them self.  Closer you get to 100% of rated distance of the club, you actually have to put top spin on the ball to make it stop close to where it lands. To prove this to yourself, hit a full wedge onto a flat green with no ball back spin.  Watch the ball backup.

  On the good side of this you had the wind and distance pretty much correct.

  Although the club has a spin rating of 3.5 and the ball has a spin rating of 0, I would normally have expected a small amount of backup on this green with full backspin on the ball. I can't remember but I guess I would have used about 95% of the club. I think you can see that the angle off the pin is slightly steeper than that coming on to it and then when it lands the full backspin takes an exaggerated effect because the ball is already coming back. Hence the long low initial hop and the rest follows.

  This now makes perfect sense to me which is great because I've always thought that the game is very realistic and that's why I posted the shot in the first place.

  Thanks to all who've taken an interest.

• PaulTon 10,731 Posts

  Wed, Feb 17 2016 1:13 PM

  garyk49:

   No english on the ball

  What does that mean Gary?

• alosso 21,072 Posts

  Wed, Feb 17 2016 1:20 PM

  @Percy, Rogg: You may see such shots from the PGA Tour in youtube, "unlucky flag bounces" or similar.

  The really weird shots here are meant to go 65 yds to the flag, hit it and bounce OOB 200 yds.

• Percycat 2,050 Posts

  Wed, Feb 17 2016 1:32 PM

  PaulTon:

  garyk49:

   No english on the ball

  What does that mean Gary?

  Being English I had to look it up myself. It means side spin on the cue ball.

• garyk49 2,331 Posts

  Wed, Feb 17 2016 4:43 PM

  Percycat:

  PaulTon:

  garyk49:

   No english on the ball

  What does that mean Gary?

  Being English I had to look it up myself. It means side spin on the cue ball.

  I take it not pool players.

  You can hit above center on the cue(white) ball for top spin(will make the ball either come off a cushion faster or move at a forward rate after hitting a ball.  Backspin(draw) is done by hitting below center(normally used to back up a after striking a ball. Both left and right side spin can be used also.  Any where you hit the cue ball off of center will make the ball move in that direction.  Low left will draw the ball and move it left.

  English is used to get the cue ball into position for your next shot.  At times you will play the table 4 or 5 shots ahead of the shot you are doing.

  Most bar tables are 6 foot tables.  Try playing on a 8 foot pool or a 8 foot or 9 foot snooker/billiards table.

  If you have ever seen pool being played in a movie or on TV, you have probably seen english.  Also the reason you chock the cue stick.  Helps to keep the cue stick from slipping on the cue ball. 

   

• JimbeauC 5,835 Posts

  Fri, Feb 19 2016 12:51 PM

  Here's one from a few years ago, originally posted under a luckiest shot ever thread. 

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  Well, I'm thinking this is my luckiest. Would love to see others. 

  #1 StA. Shot crosses the burn three times, twice on bounces. Yes. Was holding breath. Behind the green cam shows it best. 

  Long and Lucky

• JFidanza 1,676 Posts

  Fri, Feb 19 2016 10:46 PM

  garyk49:

  Percycat:

  PaulTon:

  garyk49:

   No english on the ball

  What does that mean Gary?

  Being English I had to look it up myself. It means side spin on the cue ball.

  I take it not pool players.

  You can hit above center on the cue(white) ball for top spin(will make the ball either come off a cushion faster or move at a forward rate after hitting a ball.  

  English is used to get the cue ball into position for your next shot. 

  I digress, but I learned about 'english' while putting spin on the ball playing 'Tennis' or circa. 1972 when we got the Magnavox Odyssey; the first commercial home video game console. It was a challenging aspect of the game, for sure.

  English can really change a Ping Pong game, also. If my brother put spin on a ball ,the ball would carom off your paddle OOB, unless you put counter-spin on the return. 

  My friend won a game of 8-ball..our rules state that you have to hit the 8 ball on the last shot and to hit it first, etc. My ball was blocking it in between. He put the stick up and came down on the cue ball so the ball hopped over mine and knocked the 8 ball in the corner pocket. 

   

  Here's a good one, too.