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• MichaelStroke 2,066 Posts

  Fri, Dec 5 2014 7:43 AM

  I'm an inch away from tossing my Bertha and going back to my Nike FW wood.  Unless I hit ding, it's a complete crapshoot when I hit it.

• jayw4862 3,364 Posts

  Fri, Dec 5 2014 7:45 AM

  fmagnets:

  I will explain: once you are on an upslope that is steeper than the launch angle of your 3wd, you will plough your shot straight into the hill in front of you which takes all the pace off it.

  You will get that result time and time again from that steep upslope at RSG. Never hit a shot with less than full backspin from there. If in doubt, don't hit the 3wd either.

  What you say makes perfect sense, but I just wouldn't think it would be that bad on even lies. Also, when the shot takes off, if it plowed into the hill, shouldn't it have shot up, instead of nose-diving like it did? I guess if it hit the hill, all power was gone, and what little it had left was the reason for the 70 yd landing.

  I definitely hope to not ever be in that spot. I'll probably screw many a tee shot up from now on because of flashbacks of the devil's mound. Has anyone ever had a tailwind on that hole from the tee?

  I did have an eagle pitch-in to go along with my 3 bogeys, though. BOH in high winds just not for me. 

  Learn something new every day. 

• jayw4862 3,364 Posts

  Fri, Dec 5 2014 7:47 AM

  MichaelStroke:

  Unless I hit ding, it's a complete crapshoot when I hit it.

  Absolutely 100% true. Especially on tee shots. 

• jayw4862 3,364 Posts

  Fri, Dec 5 2014 7:48 AM

  ostfriedel:

  Ball has hit a flying dove. Shot comes short, dove is dead. Simple and sad story.

  LOL....sounds legit

• jayw4862 3,364 Posts

  Fri, Dec 5 2014 7:51 AM

  ScottHope:

  Just tried to replicate your shot Jay and got more or less the same result

  It looks like you were in the exact same spot, too. Anomaly sounds good.

  Mags said it as the hill in front of the ball that cause it, and he's a little better than I am, so I'll take his word. 

• ScottHope 10,623 Posts

  Fri, Dec 5 2014 7:58 AM

  jayw4862:

  Mags said it as the hill in front of the ball that cause it, and he's a little better than I am, so I'll take his word. 

  Yep, makes good sense to me.  : )

• alosso 21,091 Posts

  Fri, Dec 5 2014 7:59 AM

  +1 to FM - perfect explanation!

  jayw4862:

  What you say makes perfect sense, but I just wouldn't think it would be that bad on even lies.

  It's Even Lies which makes it bad!

  Imagine taking this shot IRL: the clubhead's arc would point uphill, using the ground as a tangente. I love to do such shots with a wood - it's like rocket starting the ball due to the additional loft.

  Here, with Even Lies, the clubhead moves "on even ground", but the ground rises in front of the ball. It's like a trench for the clubhead with an end close to the ball position, and you must worry to overcome it.

  For once, the Even Lie is a wee disadvantage.

• fmagnets 3,640 Posts

  Fri, Dec 5 2014 8:09 AM

  jayw4862:

  Also, when the shot takes off, if it plowed into the hill, shouldn't it have shot up, instead of nose-diving like it did? 

  The result you got is quite realistic to real life I find. Many times I've been hitting a driver off the deck off an upslope and have caught the ball a little thin (ie. similar launch angle to your Even Lies 3wd here) so it hits the upslope not far in front of the ball. The shot skims low off the slope, loses all carry, and gets loads of topspin. Carries about 70 yards and runs another hundred. Yours didn't get the run of course, because it pitched in the rough, but I suspect it would have done - perhaps someone can replicate the shot but land it on the fairway? Kudos to WGT for some decent physics here though!!

• dedBuNNy 1,919 Posts

  Fri, Dec 5 2014 8:26 AM

  fmagnets:

  jayw4862:

  Also, when the shot takes off, if it plowed into the hill, shouldn't it have shot up, instead of nose-diving like it did? 

  The result you got is quite realistic to real life I find. Many times I've been hitting a driver off the deck off an upslope and have caught the ball a little thin (ie. similar launch angle to your Even Lies 3wd here) so it hits the upslope not far in front of the ball. The shot skims low off the slope, loses all carry, and gets loads of topspin. Carries about 70 yards and runs another hundred. Yours didn't get the run of course, because it pitched in the rough, but I suspect it would have done - perhaps someone can replicate the shot but land it on the fairway? Kudos to WGT for some decent physics here though!!

  Classic 'worm burner'... If only they actually coded moving the ball forward in your stance as it is in real life. The inability to 'drill' a drive 20 ft off the ground is limiting to say the least. 

  I don't really credit wgt for coding anything resembling physics on that shot, more likely it's a result of bad coding and collision debugging. 

• jayw4862 3,364 Posts

  Fri, Dec 5 2014 9:35 AM

  dedBuNNy:

  more likely it's a result of bad coding and collision debugging. 

  I like that analogy very much. Makes me not look so bad :-)