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Need more info to evaluate CCs

Thu, Jan 8 2015 6:50 PM (40 replies)
  • oneeyedjohn
    9,588 Posts
    Sun, Jan 4 2015 4:32 AM

    You sound like someone I'd rather not have in my CC.

    There are a lot of crappy CC's out there, hope you find one.

  • PaulTon
    10,731 Posts
    Sun, Jan 4 2015 4:35 AM

    oneeyedjohn:

    You sound like someone I'd rather not have in my CC.

    There are a lot of crappy CC's out there, hope you find one.

    +1

  • alosso
    21,088 Posts
    Sun, Jan 4 2015 5:17 AM

    YankeeAirPirate:
    I'm a member of a IRL country club and can attest that the money games are abundant, well attended and not all of them cheap to get into. $10 in the hat is about standard. As a 23 handicapper, I'm no shark on the prowl for easy fish, but I do enjoy the competition

    [...]

    It's that robust action that I'd like to find in a WGT CC.

    The value of "nickels" may be different, best if it's reciprocal and if ev1 can well afford any loss. I like it every now and then. 10 $ back and forth is like 100 $ back and forth - we wager on drinks. Alas, you won't find any of your friends to pay for your living with continuos money games. AFAIS, you expect just that from your CC mates in WGT.

    'nuff said

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Sun, Jan 4 2015 7:20 AM

    courteneyfish:
    Also check how many members have played in the last month. There was a club I looked at the other day where 150 of their 250 members no longer played.

    Need to be careful with that.  Extreme example and so yes maybe not a good sign, BUT remember this is free time fun and not everyone cares.  Lots of clubs have ongoing dead wood (or some that spaces just get held for) because they don't cull like they could.  That does not mean that the club is necessarily not active.  It may be very active within the amount of players that any one cares about in that club.

     Your extreme example I agree may not be a good sign, but only may not as different expectations exist as to what is cared about.

    Good luck funding a CC to the OP.  One I am in can be ruled out as suitable though in this case I am sure he would agree:)

  • YankeeAirPirate
    124 Posts
    Sun, Jan 4 2015 10:44 AM

    With thanks to oneeyedjohn, PaulTon and alosso, you've helped narrow the field. Scratch Cosa Nostra, Grande Oaks and White Rabbit from my list of possible CCs. Your friendly guidance is appreciated.

    But you seem to be taking me for some sort of mercenary shark. To clarify, IRL, I'm a 23 handicapper. That's not a shark, that's something found in the chum bucket!!

    My game is a bit better at WGT, depending mostly on that fleeting hope for Swing Meter stability, but certainly not crisp enough to rank me as any sort of predator. I do more paying out than raking in, but that just makes the occasional return on the entry fee all the sweeter.

    I do certainly respect any Club for hosting member tourmanents at any average entry fee, or none at all. That begs the presumtion that that's how the membership at large like it, which of course is to presume that the membership has any voice in their Club's activities. It's not that way everywhere.

    All that is definitely not a complaint against any Club, it's just me still on the search for a Club that offers a good variety of "money" games.

    Nickel-dime (5 and 10 credit) games are fine, but if that's all there is, I'm still looking.

    But back to the point -- it'd be very much appreciated if WGT could expand the information on individual CCs that would be accessible to the non-member public, simply for the purpose of evaluating that Club. Better for all, Club and prospective member, to know more up front than to be obliged to join that Club in order to see if it suits you.

    HA! That just reminded me of a brilliant political adage: "We need to pass the Bill so we can see what's in it." Yeah, that's a great idea. :-)

  • DAputts
    1,919 Posts
    Sun, Jan 4 2015 12:41 PM

    From an owners view I would like the ability to see more information available on perspective members...How many if any CC's have they belonged to and why they left, or were removed from and why.  A % of involvement or activity.  Status held in other clubs be it member, veteran or officer.  Help us pick better  recruits.  Just the other side of the coin...mho....

  • ISH47
    1,963 Posts
    Sun, Jan 4 2015 1:10 PM

    So basically you want to find a CC with a lot of members who like to gamble but are not as good a player as you are.. easy pickins', so to speak. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're probably not gonna find a club like that.

    Good luck with it though..

  • alosso
    21,088 Posts
    Sun, Jan 4 2015 1:53 PM

    +1 ISH!

    In his many words, he said nothing about "earning the daily balls in CC tourneys".

    Otherways, no hard feelings.

    Have fun!

  • YankeeAirPirate
    124 Posts
    Sun, Jan 4 2015 2:05 PM

    DAputts:

    From an owners view I would like the ability to see more information available on perspective members...How many if any CC's have they belonged to and why they left, or were removed from and why.  A % of involvement or activity.  Status held in other clubs be it member, veteran or officer.  Help us pick better  recruits.  Just the other side of the coin...mho....

    Agreed, DAputts. Especially regarding "why they left," from my prospective member perspective. I've never been "removed" from any of the several Clubs I've checked out, and always supported them with the "Pass" card on the first round of a new consecutive day, to contribute the maximum points to the Club.

    Also, I've had no major complaints about any Club I've checked out, but feel there's a better fit for me out there somewhere.

    Again -- it's the need to actually go through the process of joining in order to see what goes on in a Club that I believe could be improved upon.

    WGT could, and should for both Club and prospective member, make those insights more accessible -- both ways, regarding the Club and the prospective member.

    Why put either party through the exercise of welcoming aboard, making new friends within the Club, laying down the rules, etc., only to have that new member discover they feel dissatisfied with what s/he has just joined?

  • YankeeAirPirate
    124 Posts
    Sun, Jan 4 2015 2:11 PM

    ISH47:

    So basically you want to find a CC with a lot of members who like to gamble but are not as good a player as you are.. easy pickins', so to speak. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're probably not gonna find a club like that.

    Good luck with it though..

    After all I've said about suggesting that WGT add a new feature that would serve both Clubs and prospective members better, and the fact that I'm a high handicapper and shell out as much or more than I usually win at WGT, for you to come to that conclusion suggests that my 23 handicap must surely exceed your personal IQ score.

    Same to you, ISH47, good luck with that.

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