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• ThreeSpot 476 Posts

  Tue, Jan 20 2015 10:23 AM

  Jimbog1964:

  Does seem like the uptake on these is hardly sweeping among the top players.  Any ideas??

   

  4495 credits may be a bit steep for .1 more Precision and .5 better Forgiveness and Meter Speed as compared to the Level 97s. I would also guess that Forgiveness and Meter Speed are more important to players like me (almost 4 years as a Legend) than to the elite players.

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Tue, Jan 20 2015 10:33 AM

  ThreeSpot:

  4495 credits may be a bit steep for .1 more Precision and .5 better Forgiveness and Meter Speed as compared to the Level 97s.

  Credits is not the issue for them..more than know what to do with this game wise.

  ThreeSpot:

  I would also guess that Forgiveness and Meter Speed are more important to players like me (almost 4 years as a Legend) than to the elite players.

  Not so sure.  If you play RGs you back yourself with what does the job most effectively (bearing in mind we established credits is a non issue.

   

  hear ya but some other more pertinent reason (s) I am thinking.

  In all honesty I am having trouble mapping them consistently.  Need to look at it more closely as just got the chits with it.  My 97s I was v confident with.

   

• WillyBigg 2,135 Posts

  Tue, Jan 20 2015 11:17 AM

  Me too Jim, not getting anywhere fast with these new irons. Not nearly as precise as the level 97's were, not near as forgiving either. Level 100 Nike iron's attributes are a bold faced lie. Thing is they were perfect 1st day I bought them but have gone downhill everyday since.

  Is this a ploy by wgt to force buyers of the new irons to have to go back & repurchase the Level 97's? Yep, what other reason could it be?

  These will be my last club purchase from wgt

• Romax 1,876 Posts

  Tue, Jan 20 2015 11:35 AM

  WillyBigg:

  Me too Jim, not getting anywhere fast with these new irons. Not nearly as precise as the level 97's were, not near as forgiving either. Level 100 Nike iron's attributes are a bold faced lie. Thing is they were perfect 1st day I bought them but have gone downhill everyday since.

  Is this a ploy by wgt to force buyers of the new irons to have to go back & repurchase the Level 97's? Yep, what other reason could it be?

  These will be my last club purchase from wgt

  It's kinda funny Willie. People keep asking me why I am @ lvl 109 and don't have the new super-power irons.( Almost like....Don't you know you could have them? )  Duh ! The answer is simple.... From what I have read about them, it seems they are just another WGT rip off. The only club I have bought in 2 years was one to give away, and I too have no intention of buying any more clubs for my bag.

  I have learned to use the cheapy baseballs ( sort of) for the very same reasons. Rip me once....your fault. Rip me twice... my fault !

• WillyBigg 2,135 Posts

  Tue, Jan 20 2015 11:51 AM

  You got that right Romax, you're were smart leaving these L100 Nikes alone. Luckily I was suspicious from being burned so many times before & this time I kept my old L97 Nikes.

  Usually wgt depreciates the former clubs to persuade players into the newest release but this time around it changed. Well maybe, I have not gone back to the L97's yet & they could very well have been downgraded also.

  For what these new irons cost, there is no reason why wgt should not let them perform according to the specks that were assigned to them.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Tue, Jan 20 2015 11:57 AM

  WillyBigg:

  Not nearly as precise as the level 97's were, not near as forgiving either. Level 100 Nike iron's attributes are a bold faced lie.

  I disagree with you and with Jim on the mapping. The 100s were a seamless fit for me and the more I use them, the better it gets. The meter jerks me around a little because it's too slow for me but with the 33 Callaway it's coming around. That's exactly where the forgiveness is showing up because the results of my near misses, intentional or otherwise, are getting better results than I would have seen with the 97s.The main loss on a missed ding is direction. The yardage for your setup isn't killed, you just wind up off line as opposed to being in the next county.

  The clubs play loose with the swing and that's where I see the biggest plus. Especially since of late, possibly since the grand expose during the VT, dinging with a side wind is crazy. I can't believe some of the crosswind results from dings that I'm seeing. It is way better to miss into the wind and again, this is where that extra forgiveness is showing up. 

  A large part of my success with the 100s may be because I'm a feel golfer with the calculator in my head. I verified the carry numbers on the irons as soon as I got them and found them right on the 97s so my game hasn't changed but the results certainly have. Anybody owning this game with the 97s isn't going to be impressed but average golfers like myself will be.  :-)

• WillyBigg 2,135 Posts

  Tue, Jan 20 2015 12:10 PM

  YJ, I'd have to agree 100% 1st day I had them, 2nd day wasn't terrible but they did not perform any better than my L97's. It could be I need to try the L33 Callies, save me some credits & can't be any worse than my L34 Callies. I used the 33's before going to the 34's.

  My biggest problem with them is inconsistency in the winds, can't get enough shots to come out the same to map. It's both headwinds & tailwinds, one shot will be fine & the next not make any sense. I don't have much problem of dinging them a lot better than the L97's, just not getting the results I expect. Actually not seeing any worse problem with side winds.

  "A large part of my success with the 100s may be because I'm a feel golfer with the calculator in my head. I verified the carry numbers on the irons as soon as I got them and found them right on the 97s so my game hasn't changed but the results certainly have. Anybody owning this game with the 97s isn't going to be impressed but average golfers like myself will be.  :-)"

  That could be part of my problem as I am a charts user & note taker. But the 1st day these new irons played the same yardages as the L97's, now they don't.

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Tue, Jan 20 2015 12:20 PM

  Well with the L90 ball and the L97 irons my ADP was 10' and I was doing OK in my small way staying ahead in RGs.  I WD from RGs yes, but only on economic grounds so any stats I have are as solid as most as also I seldom play unlimiteds and hardly ever look at red tees as they bore me.  These irons I have not entered a RG as it would be futile.

  I need to spend more time with them but any notes I have so far at say even Kiawah 1 one day seem crap the next day..........More time before any firm conclusions though, but seen enough to just make me start to wonder.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Tue, Jan 20 2015 12:27 PM

  WillyBigg:

  It could be I need to try the L33 Callies, save me some credits & can't be any worse than my L34 Callies.

  One of the biggest reasons I like the 33Callaway-besides being the cheapest decent ball- is that the rated yardage of the irons is really close. (The Tour-SD actually is right on.) This is just hitting flat with no spin or wind and including roll out. The more important carry number-even with mishits-is still +/- a couple of yards. 

  Another reason I like the Callaways is because I believe you get deviated less with missed hits than you do with the better, slower meter balls. Great balls but you better hit them right. With the Callaways you can be a bit lazier. That's me!  LOL

  WillyBigg:

  That could be part of my problem as I am a charts user & note taker

  Foreign world for me.   ;-)

• hpurey 11,505 Posts

  Tue, Jan 20 2015 2:48 PM

  WillyBigg:

  Anybody owning this game with the 97s isn't going to be impressed but average golfers like myself will be.  :-)

   

  Put me in the 'average golfer' group.  :)

   

  Starting to think that it was better having the same meter speed from 64º thru 3iron.  The 3.5 is still throwing me off a bit, but lack of play would be why in my case.

  Nothing that can't be fixed by playing a slower metered ball and then going back to the Callaway to speed it up a bit.  :)

  Get more looks at birdie, making them is another subject in itself lol.  Think the extra forgiveness might be the biggest help and once I adjust to the meter speed, I'll start playing like the TL I show to be.  :)