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Fri, Aug 7 2015 6:56 AM (247 replies)
  • fatdan
    3,379 Posts
    Tue, Aug 4 2015 12:20 PM

    fatdan:

    After updating flash twice and clearing the cache several times, and all the other BS we do, my browser still showed I had the old version of flash...so I removed flash and reinstalled it....my smooth meter is back, at least it is for the time being!

    WELLLL, that lasted for 2 rounds very late last night, today game is unplayable again...I surrender WGT, not going to by a pc with a high end processor and 16gigs of RAM then optimize the unit just to play this stupid f'n game.....

     

  • mathia14
    1,271 Posts
    Tue, Aug 4 2015 12:28 PM

    Gee, 22 pages of complaints.  Who would have thunk on how smooth WGT runs now with all the new updates???  ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • chrisironsbones
    3,524 Posts
    Tue, Aug 4 2015 12:43 PM

    fatdan:
    WGT, not going to by a pc with a high end processor and 16gigs of RAM then optimize the unit just to play this stupid f'n game.....

    EVEN when you do this It makes NO DIFFERENCE to the game.  Only loads faster thats about it, meter is still a bit stuttery.  Mine waits until 3/4 way down then you can roughly figure out when its going to jump from 3/4 way down to the ding line.  Its NEVER smooth.  There has been no difference in gameplay and meter from an old dual core PC with 1 GIG of RAM to my latest PC which IS like a Ferrari in comparrison, yet all It does is make game load faster.  If anything the game play was BETTER on old PC because this was before WGT started to MEDDLE and then got lost! and they've been searching for a way to fix the game ever since.  I justt cant grasp how a company can make a once amazing game, WORSE with every update.  But thats WGT for you.  Never a smooth ride, always a rollercoaster with them

  • SHRUDE
    5,835 Posts
    Tue, Aug 4 2015 10:24 PM

    JLeary1:
    Sorry to argue with a fellow Aussie, Shrude, but

    Naw, never an argument, but a discussion with differing opinions it may be.

    JLeary1:
    cleaning the registry is not needed for system optimisation, despite the myriad of websites saying the opposite.

    Well I disagree with this.
    If a user is installing and uninstalling programs, deleting files and shortcuts on the system, shutting down incorrectly, etc etc then the registry is affected. In a lot of cases programs are written that work well in practice but dont clean themselves up properly, this could be because they have integrated in with other programs or simply bad authoring.

    Subsequently the registry searches for all these orphaned files or parameters not only on boot but quite often on simple click commands, if related programs are still in the systray or somehow still in the shell.
    I would suggest a registry clean every month for a heavy user, maybe once every 6 months for someone who just does the same thing repetitively on their machine.
    & in the latter occurrence possibly not a crucial task.

    You have spelt out some nice points as well,  that every Windows user should be looking at whether they are a WGT gamer or not.
    However this isn't the place for tutorial on these, simply do your research on how to.

    JLeary1:
    *running services.msc and disabling or setting to manual all unneccesary services

    I think this is probably the singularly most important thing for any user and especially for WGT the easiest way of checking these is with MSCONFIG. EXE  which also gives an ability for the layman to simply check everything that starts with Windows (Systray)

    All the crap i see loaded up on peoples machines running all the time that arent needed is sometimes so excessive there is no memory left for simply functions.
    This can be anything from audio software, to printer monitors and adobe PDF updaters.

    JLeary1:
    *set automatic updates to "Notify to download/install"

    Again, something often overlooked but also important to freeing up the RAM.  It might be convenient for programs to start automatically and do their thing (windows update)  but more often than not, problems can occur.

    JLeary1:
    *disable system restore, disable remote assistance

    Hmmmmm not too sure about this one. Although toomany users use sytem restore too many times , i thin it is a good service to maintain as a  last resort for the average user.
    Remote assistance on the other hand really depends on wether you feel you can fix most things yourself or if you love to get on the windows help line and fiddle with their brain.

    JLeary1:
    But the reality is that if you have done all that, have a good computer, the 3 biggest variables that are responsible for meter smoothness, in no hard order, are:

    1. Wgt

    2. Browser and browser config

    3. Flash and flash version

    4. Internet speed - network at your end or wgt's network load

    And yet....  these options are what most rely on and insist should be providing their smooth meter without any of the considerations above.

     

    Personally right now as of today - (touch wood)- i'm not getting any meter issues. Dont usually either. Maybe one in 50 swings, that are minimal. I dont get the huge speedups and great pauses I used to get when I first appeared here.

    Tell you the truth , i havent noticed the blinking ball either...  I will have to pay more attention!

    But I am annoyed at the rest, camera flips and views and everything else.

    Mostly annoyed with the recurring inability for WGT to 'get it right' & provide their updates without all the glitches. Each time. Every time.


     

  • pgturne
    4,749 Posts
    Tue, Aug 4 2015 10:56 PM

    I am the same as SRUDE, minimal meter issues and the ball blinks only some time. Has WGT actually said they will fix the camera angles. How come they work on the Par 3s? I think they may be not broken but this is how they will stay!!!!

  • JLeary1
    416 Posts
    Tue, Aug 4 2015 10:59 PM

    I respect your opinion Shrude, I just have a different understanding of many things..

    SHRUDE:
    Well I disagree with this.
    If a user is installing and uninstalling programs, deleting files and shortcuts on the system, shutting down incorrectly, etc etc then the registry is affected.

    My understanding is that the registry is loaded into memory at boot, and so in terms of system performance, removing or cleaning even say 10,000 registry keys (which may or may not come with its own set of problems) is only going to speed up boot time by a fraction of a second at best; so once a machine has finished boot-time, there are no more system gains to be had from registry "cleaning". Sure, as you point out, obsolete registry keys can, on rare occasions cause minor issues, such as right-click context menus being a little slower, but the registry is a highly optimised database and does not generally pose problems with the presence of obsolete keys. The other way around registry issues is to use something like the Revo uninstaller, which is designed to clean up things like registry keys that so often get left behind by many uninstallers, the windows one included.

    As for windows updates, I have one machine set to notify, and on my ASIO recording machine I have windows update disabled altogether. The latter is only recommended if you are not internet connected regularly, and need maximum near-real time performance of your OS. "Notify" ensures that both downloads and installs do not occur without you explicitly choosing, and so minimises the system impact as well.

    SHRUDE:
    I think this is probably the singularly most important thing for any user and especially for WGT the easiest way of checking these is with MSCONFIG. EXE

    Msconfig is fine for start-up entries, but for proper services enabling / disabling, services.msc is the interface to use, or group policy, as you can choose both extra parameters via services.msc as well as being able to define the startup type (automatic, manual, or disabled). Choosing manual is a safe way to go, if you are not comfortable with what a service is doing or if it is needed.

    SHRUDE:
    Although toomany users use sytem restore too many times , i thin it is a good service to maintain as a  last resort for the average user.
    Remote assistance on the other hand really depends on wether you feel you can fix most things yourself or if you love to get on the windows help line and fiddle with their brain.

    In terms of system performance, disabling system restore and remote assistance are two other ways to increase it; however, I agree that it comes with some risk, and is probably not the best if you are not confident in fixing your own machine. For me, I have seperate hard drives with sym-links for all my documents data, as well as have backups for everything else, and I find that mostly the problems I get with my system are hardware-related, which system restore cannot fix anyhow. And remote assistance is just something that I never have need for, and when I have troubleshooted computers remotely, I use other proprietary software anyhow.

  • SHRUDE
    5,835 Posts
    Tue, Aug 4 2015 11:15 PM

    Yep fair enough PG.

    I know many new users expect almost 'instant' response when they click on something on the PC, too many time i have to ask them to just wait a bit. A cluttered registry will further the wait time. in 'some' instances.

    Yep I am with you on the Windows updates , mine are only set to notify me on all my machines.
    Interestingly they all have the save version of Windows7, and update at different times.

    JLeary1:
    for proper services enabling / disabling, services.msc is the interface to use

    This is quite daunting for new users, or those wanting to at least try and have a go...  i fond Msconfig far easier for them to get a handle on whats happening initially.

    JLeary1:
    In terms of system performance, disabling system restore and remote assistance are two other ways to increase it;

    I wouldnt have thought disabling Remote Assist would have made much of a difference if it has never been used .

    Yes I use Teamviewer instead of Windows Remote Assist...

    I will try disabling Remote Assist on mine and see what I notice.
    I have an SSD on my main PC as well as other Hard Drives for other Data.

     

     

  • JLeary1
    416 Posts
    Wed, Aug 5 2015 12:40 AM

    SHRUDE:
    This is quite daunting for new users, or those wanting to at least try and have a go...  i fond Msconfig far easier for them to get a handle on whats happening initially.

    Yes, totally agree, Shrude. However, there are some good guides online, the most well-known one is Black Viper's service configurations, but again, if you do not know what you are doing, it is probably best to leave the service configuration alone and at its defaults, and like you said just running msconfig.exe to disable unnecessary startup items... but for power users, disabling or at least setting some services to manual via services.msc can certainly free up a lot of resources.

    SHRUDE:
    I wouldnt have thought disabling Remote Assist would have made much of a difference if it has never been used .

    Actually, to be fair, disabling remote assistance is more of a security benefit, I don't think it will have much performance benefit, however, if you don't use it, you can set the two services "Remote Desktop Configuration" and "Remote desktop Services" via services.msc to disabled and free up resources as much as equivalently disabling other unnecessary services.

    I've used TeamViewer for a remote session for a poor woman who was using Linux for her work as it was free, and that was fun, lol - trying to remember all the linux shell commands and doing it all remotely was fun (sarcasm).

  • alberich35
    858 Posts
    Wed, Aug 5 2015 12:47 AM

    Agree with Jleary.

     

    Msconfig is good but not enough, you can only enable or disable a few programs at start-up.

    Services is very more usefull, you can for exemple disable alls updaters which check internet all time and many others services dont you dont use but are in memory at startup.

    And also, its not usefull to clean the registry, you dont care for missing shared DLL or inused DLL and other things which dont slow your PC and internet connection because they are not loaded at start-up.

  • CanineSupervisor
    1,882 Posts
    Wed, Aug 5 2015 1:14 AM

    fatdan:
    After updating flash twice and clearing the cache several times, and all the other BS we do, my browser still showed I had the old version of flash...so I removed flash and reinstalled it....my smooth meter is back, at least it is for the time being!

    Ahhh, Dan.

    Did you stand on your head and spin around counterclockwise 4 times while wearing a Tutu and clap? 

    If not..you may not have solved the issue...just sayin'...

     

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