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• SPINO1 5,394 Posts

  Thu, Oct 8 2015 10:18 AM

  My 3w says it goes 245yrds

  How does this happen then lol, factor in the 17mph tail wind with a ding and full back spin, too much of this shite going on !

  http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=f5b73f0e-1fbf-48e6-9ce1-a52b011c8ba9

   

• hpurey 11,505 Posts

  Thu, Oct 8 2015 10:46 AM

  Ok,  got it loaded up to watch but haven't clicked play watch yet as I wanted to point out that it shows 2nd cut of rough 2-5% but you are standing in what appears to be center of FW.  LOL.

  brb.....

   

  **EDIT

  With that wind, I would expect a heck of a lot more carry than 228yards.  LOL

  

• ct690911 7,205 Posts

  Thu, Oct 8 2015 11:01 AM

  this goes a little bit to an earlier post I made about how this never seems to happen to the very top tier players...they almost never get fooled by the wind or the lying dots?.....I was told it was because they practice so much. Probably that's true to a degree....but jeez.

• JFidanza 1,676 Posts

  Thu, Oct 8 2015 10:50 PM

  I hit my BB3W (245yd), no spin, with a crosswind R-L 18-20 MPH and it hit at 250 and rolled on a flat FW to 271. It was a WGT GI3-S cheapo ball. I like the extra distance but if it was a tight FW or green I would have been in trouble.

• siggipj76 2,989 Posts

  Thu, Oct 8 2015 11:09 PM

  JFidanza:

  I hit my BB3W (245yd), no spin, with a crosswind R-L 18-20 MPH and it hit at 250 and rolled on a flat FW to 271. It was a WGT GI3-S cheapo ball. I like the extra distance but if it was a tight FW or green I would have been in trouble.

  easy to do when you ride the wind, what does it help in this case ????

  nothing thanks for the useless input !

• siggipj76 2,989 Posts

  Thu, Oct 8 2015 11:13 PM

  2% is just a bug when on mid fairway !

  ask wgt and get a good responese ?

  the player on the fairway is your caddie ?

  p.s what course is that ??

• JFidanza 1,676 Posts

  Fri, Oct 9 2015 12:05 AM

  siggipj76:

  JFidanza:

  I hit my BB3W (245yd), no spin, with a crosswind R-L 18-20 MPH and it hit at 250 and rolled on a flat FW to 271. It was a WGT GI3-S cheapo ball. I like the extra distance but if it was a tight FW or green I would have been in trouble.

  easy to do when you ride the wind, what does it help in this case ????

  nothing thanks for the useless input !

  The point is that with a tailwind the OP should have went more distance with a tailwind than a crosswind 3-9 'o clock. edit: off the tee and off the FW are different, though, and the rough can choke roll out. With bs it went parabolic, perhaps. 

• Rabbit274 1,178 Posts

  Fri, Oct 9 2015 7:52 AM

  I believe the replay shows the lie at which your ball ends up. The shot is reverse view, so the player in the fairway is the player.

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Fri, Oct 9 2015 11:12 AM

  JFidanza:

  GFY

  I saw that reply to siggi this morning!  Having a meltdown last night were you?  PMSL

  Then you edited it today...

  JFidanza:

  siggipj76:

  JFidanza:

  I hit my BB3W (245yd), no spin, with a crosswind R-L 18-20 MPH and it hit at 250 and rolled on a flat FW to 271. It was a WGT GI3-S cheapo ball. I like the extra distance but if it was a tight FW or green I would have been in trouble.

  easy to do when you ride the wind, what does it help in this case ????

  nothing thanks for the useless input !

  The point is that with a tailwind the OP should have went more distance with a tailwind than a crosswind 3-9 'o clock. edit: off the tee and off the FW are different, though, and the rough can choke roll out. With bs it went parabolic, perhaps. 

  So how is a 3W tee shot, with cross wind, with a cheapo ball, and no indication of ding or off-ding relevant to analyzing a 3W fairway shot, with big down wind, with a Cally ball, and dinged?

  I agree with siggi, useless input.

  And then you said:

  JFidanza:

  The point is that with a tailwind the OP should have went more distance with a tailwind than a crosswind 3-9 'o clock. edit: off the tee and off the FW are different, though, and the rough can choke roll out.

  Thank you Captain Obvious! You think siggi, as a TL, didn't know that?

  And thanks for the laughs!

   

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Fri, Oct 9 2015 12:05 PM

  SPINO1:

  My 3w says it goes 245yrds

  How does this happen then lol, factor in the 17mph tail wind with a ding and full back spin, too much of this shite going on !

  http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=f5b73f0e-1fbf-48e6-9ce1-a52b011c8ba9

   

  That's a high trajectory 3W and the first thing I noticed was how low it went for a full back spin shot.

  So I went to my bag and equipped my old L89 BB 245yd 3W, and seeing on your profile you have the Cally Chrome Soft L33 equipped I loaded up a Cally Hex Chrome L33 ball.  {I don't have any Chrome Softs but the specs are the same.)

  Then I went to a practice round on BP B9 with hi wind and was lucky I got a big downwind on the tee.at hole 13.  The wind is a little more right to left than yours but still comparable down wind since its 20mph at 11 o'clock.

  I drove and then chipped/pitched on the fairway until I was within inches of SPINO1's spot.  I then used mulligans to hit multiple dinged shots from the same location using different spins.  All data represents a dinged shot.  I took a screen shot of the replays from camera 1 when the shot landed to get the shot's carry.  Click the links to view each replay if you want to see them.  All my shots were aimed at the same spot.

  Full back spin carried 254 yds.

  No Back spin (neutral) carried 243 yds

  Half Top spin carried 226 yds

  Full Top spin carried 230 yds (odd but could be a normal distance deviation)

  SPINO1's shot carried in the range of half or full top spin shots!

  (I know a single shot's distance can vary so I hit multiple Half Top spin shots and all were within a few yards of 226)

  I took the carry screen shots and made this animation marking the apex of each shot's trajectory with a different colored line for comparison:  Click the image for a full size view.

  

  A couple of things to note

  • SPINO1's trajectory and carry distance is closest to a half top spin or full top spin shot
  • On all my shots the ball finished to the left of the initial trajectory, because of the right to left wind.
  • On SPINO1's shot the ball finished to the right of the initial trajectory even with the slight right to left wind.

  It's really a strange WTF shot.