Wow, great response folks, lots of interesting insights.....and not one relevant to the shot in question.
TorstenKammerer:
what happend's to me a lot on this hole is none to very little wind effect in right to left wind conditions. I expaind this to myself by the row of tree's along the right side of the fairway.
where the tree's block of most of the wind.
Could be, but, as stated, mine was a left-to-right wind; there are no trees left of the green and my shot never got within 25 yards of the trees, though it darn well should've.
borntobesting:But the OP's example could have just been the old mouse not releasing the cursor and moving his aim marker. If he was paying as much attention to his club as he say he was he could just have missed the aim marker moving and only seeing the poor results of the shot. I am sure that has happened to us all.
An understandable theory. In truth, I aim the overwhelming majority of my shots over 30 yards using the mini-map and I'm also primarily watching the mini-map while the ball's in flight. In this case the ball didn't start wildly left or anything, it just started a bit left and continued straight as an arrow - no bend with the wind at all - until it landed 5 yards upwind of the (very easy to see & properly positioned) aimer.
fairground11:the ball always go more to the left on hole number 1 at oakmont than you expect
Frankly Ian, I've never had issues with the wind on this hole until now. The ball certainly rolls like a bat out of hell left across the front of this green, which is why i aimed only 5 yards upwind of the hole in the first place. This shot never had a chance to roll left as it landed 5 yards upwind of the aimer - and easily 10-15 yards left of where one would expect it to land given the 12-14 mph crosswind and the 35 foot elevation drop.
TheAceFactor:The mistake I feel a lot of players make concerning par 3's (a couple of them were mentioned here) is the misconception thet they are tee'd up @ 6:00 o'clock , and their pin is @ 12:00 o'clock......This is often not the case. BPB # 8 and both her pin's are a good example. Front pin , your at 6 , her pin's at 11 , not 12.........BPB rear pin placement , her pin is more at 12...this is where players are making slight to moderate wind mistakes.
Again, irrelevant to the shot in question - the dinged shot landed 5 yards upwind of the aimer in a 12-14 mph crosswind!! - but I'll respond as this post makes perfect sense, is totally logical, and is completely contrary to my experiences in this game. I'll use St A #14 as an example. A heavy headwind often necessitates a 2nd shot layup to the far left fairway. The view for this shot is nearly 30 degrees off center (straight ahead), yet if i take a 30 degree wind shift into consideration, my shot always lands either OB left or in the weeds right. If I play the wind as stated, its almost always in the fairway. Same for the tee shot on Kiawah #15, where the fairway is waaaay left of the straight-ahead view.
Y'all can rationalize this nonsense all you'd like. The fact is there is no good excuse for any dinged shots over 50 yards - hit with any club - to land (not roll, land!) upwind of the aimer in a 10+ mph crosswind. Ever. And you all darn well know it.
At the moment, I'm on my 3rd or 4th go-round with this 10% circle-of-precision nonsense. And that figure is for full shots; for my short game, its more like 30-40%. I also had a 5 day stretch once where the stimpmeter read low by a factor of 5 (fast greens playing like champs, champs playing outta-sight fast) and extended periods of low-speed lip-out mania (can someone please explain how a putt that barely reaches the hole - 6 in long or less - can lip out?? Especially on the high side of the hole???). As well as the indignity of missing 2 dinged 3 inch putts on flat greens.
No amount of cache clearing, system cleaning, or settings-tweaking has any positive effect on any of the above crap. It always just magically disappears whenever some entity decides it should disappear (ie. whenever WGT darn well feels like it should).
It'd be silly to think that I'm the only one experiencing this nonsense. As much as you folks like to rationalize this stuff away, or enjoy pompously belittling & cajoling many who experience things you've never seen, the facts remain:
1) The game does NOT play the same for everyone. Clearly WGT plays fast & loose with its tolerances for many of us at times,
2) Top players and Forum regulars are largely exempt from these occurrences. It isn't hard to see why. It would be egregiously bad PR if someone 'knowledgeable' about the game started having issues like this. Don't think so? Look at the firestorm we sat through last spring over something as trivial as a red-screen lobby!!
3) As such, every tournament on WGT is effectively rigged. There's no way someone with a 10% precision circle can realistically compete with someone with a 2% circle, period.
Sorry folks. I do love this game and have nearly 6000 ranked rounds under my belt to prove it. But sometimes the manipulation nonsense gets to be a bit much to take, to put it mildly. This needed to be said. Thank you all very much for your time.