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Putting stats... wtf?

• Deviant 21 Posts

  Fri, Mar 18 2011 2:21 PM

  Hi everyone, hopefully someone can help with this, because I'm confused.

   

  I just completed a 9 hole round - the free weekly 9 hole unlimited play (St Andrews back 9), if you were curious. Anyway, during that round, I didn't miss a singe putt under 5 feet in distance. Yet when I checked after the round, my putting stat "% Putts Made from 0 - 5 Feet" had gone down. How? I don't miss very many putts under 5 feet - I'd be making over 80% of them - but WGT reckons I only make 45.35%.

   

  Doesn't make sense as I see it. Can anyone clarify? Ta.

• PeterHopper 1,315 Posts

  Fri, Mar 18 2011 2:39 PM

  Prob. the way WGT calculates averages. If you keep playing rounds that should rise. I guess.

• Deviant 21 Posts

  Fri, Mar 18 2011 2:44 PM

  PeterHopper:

  Prob. the way WGT calculates averages. If you keep playing rounds that should rise. I guess.

  You've played a lot more rounds than I have and have a much lower average, yet your putting stats are very similar to mine. But how many putts under 5' do you miss? Not many, I'd wager.

• Ffudd 2,541 Posts

  Fri, Mar 18 2011 4:21 PM

  If you take 10 putts over 7 holes (to make the maths easier)

  3 miss (doesn't matter what distance)

  5 go in from 3 feet   5/10 = 50%

  2 go in from 7 feet   2/10 = 20%

  Your stats would be  0-5 feet 50%   5-10 feet 20%  (notice they only add up to 70%) and your average putts per hole would be 10/7 = 1.43

  Admittedly it is a strange way of doing it - the other way would be more useful.

• PGAbound67 565 Posts

  Fri, Mar 18 2011 5:25 PM

  The percentages you see aren't for the percentage you make of those particular putts. Think of it like this....of all the putts you've made, 45.32% of them were from 0-5ft, 7.49% were from 5-10ft, 4.20% were from 10-25ft, 0.27% of them were from 25-50ft, and 0.05% were from 50+ft. It doesn't make much sense, I know., Hopefully one day WGT will change the way they do statistics.

• Deviant 21 Posts

  Fri, Mar 18 2011 6:02 PM

  PGAbound67:

  The percentages you see aren't for the percentage you make of those particular putts. Think of it like this....of all the putts you've made, 45.32% of them were from 0-5ft, 7.49% were from 5-10ft, 4.20% were from 10-25ft, 0.27% of them were from 25-50ft, and 0.05% were from 50+ft. It doesn't make much sense, I know., Hopefully one day WGT will change the way they do statistics.

  Ah - now that you explain it that way... BUT if it was calculated that way, wouldn't all your percentages add to 100%? Mine only add to a shade under 60%...

   

  Personally I think it would make more sense to show putting statistics as I thought they were shown (eg. Putts made 0-5 ft: 76% (attempted 1000, made 760), and so on), but hey, it is only a beta game (for what, 18 months?!) after all.

• PGAbound67 565 Posts

  Fri, Mar 18 2011 6:58 PM

  It would definitely make more sense if they were calculated that way. As far as them adding up to 100%...only if you've made every putt you've hit, this basically only takes into account putts made, not total putts taken. 

• MonumentValley 58 Posts

  Fri, Mar 18 2011 7:13 PM

   Hi, Deviant. The putting % is figured from your total putts.

  Let's take a look at the numbers. For you, currently, that is 2191 total putts.

  Your 0-5 ft% of 45.32 says that % of your total putts were put in from under 5 ft

          5-10 ft% of 7.56 says that % of your total putts were put in from between 5-10 ft

        10-25 ft% of 4.15 says ...

        25-50 ft% of 0.26 says ...

           50+ ft% of 0.04 says ...

  If you add the figures, you get 57.33%, which, would be your overall putting %, and, when converted to putts per hole, comes to 1.7445, roughly.

  The total doesn't add to 100.00 because your misses are not factored in.

   

   

• Deviant 21 Posts

  Fri, Mar 18 2011 7:39 PM

   

  MonumentValley:

  ...comes to 1.7445, roughly.

   

  Roughly eh... :P

   

  I kind of get what you're talking about. But only kind of. What happens if you attempt a putt from say 20 feet, miss, and then sink the next from 2 feet? Do your 10-25 feet stats go down a bit... and your 0-5 feet stats, no change? Is it only going off the first putt, or what? What if I mucked up a 130' putt, and had a 2nd attempt from 60'?

   

  I'm still confused. What a dumb method of keeping stats!

• Deviant 21 Posts

  Fri, Mar 18 2011 7:50 PM

  Or are you saying that, of 2191 putts, I've successfully made 45% of the total from 0-5 feet, successfully made 7.49% from 5-10 feet, and so on... and missed the rest?

   

  Coz if so... okay, I get it... but what a silly method of recording putting stats! Better to say something like:

   

  0-5 feet: Attempted 1000. Sunk 860. 86%

  5-10 feet: Attempted 500. Sunk 125. 25%

  10-25 feet: Blah

  25-50 feet: Blah

  Total: Attempted 2191. Sunk 1256. 57%.

  Thoughts?