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The New GS Wind/Putting Calculator

Sat, Oct 1 2016 12:26 AM (127 replies)
  • 11BC2
    555 Posts
    Mon, Sep 26 2016 6:45 PM

    thewonderstuff:

    LoL ;).  WGT could make a killin' if they offered something which guaranteed a Ding.  Ironically most people wouldn't score much better due to VEM and the need to sink putts.

     

  • GitUsummaDis
    468 Posts
    Mon, Sep 26 2016 6:54 PM

    LMFAO! Good one!

  • thewonderstuff
    1,436 Posts
    Tue, Sep 27 2016 7:53 AM

    11BC2:

    WGT could make a killin' if they offered something which guaranteed a Ding.  Ironically most people wouldn't score much better due to VEM and the need to sink putts.

     

     

    yep but WGT made the use of auto dingers illegal because it was deemed unfair giving an advantage to players using that software

    but out of curiosity can i ask you all this, who has the greater advantage and who would you bet your life savings on winning-

    1, a hack with auto ding software which is against the rules?

    2.  or a hack using this program/tool which isnt against the rules?

    for me personally player 2 has easily the greater advantage, because the hardest and most rewarding aspect of this game is not hitting the ding but working out the calculation for hitting a good shot, whereas this tool just by-passes all that and reduces the game to inputting numbers and being told how and what to do!....wheres the satisfaction and sense of accomplishment in that?

     but for me winning isnt the be all and end all..... i'd rather come last in a race with no help than be aided over the finishing line in 1st place

    but thats just me  GL and have fun

    TWS

  • 11BC2
    555 Posts
    Tue, Sep 27 2016 9:07 AM

    thewonderstuff:
    whereas this tool just by-passes all that and reduces the game to inputting numbers and being told how and what to do!....wheres the satisfaction and sense of accomplishment in that?
    This is completely and absolutely false imho.  Anyone can get the same numbers themselves (don't need the tool at all) but the tool makes it much faster.  You guys that feel this way leave me scratching my head all day long.

    The reward comes from Projects that pay off ^^^.

    I'd say the most important thing in the game is good club mappings and course notes in conjunction with knowing how the ball reacts from different angles/lies/circumstances.  I have taken 6-7 sleeves of balls in the past mapping out a single Wedge for literally 5 or 6 hours over multiple courses, lies, inclines, etc. 

    Fine tuning every single distance with a specific power % and spin, to include additional notes for how much power/spin you add subtract on certain holes (to include but not limited to uphill/Dh release notes). 

    You can take it a step further and buy Canvas Paper (Art/paint shop) and take notes for every single putt on individual holes.  So one sheet of paper might be numbered 1-60 and then you use *footnotes* at the bottom of the page and write down the corresponding Angle, Vertex, Flow, Aim point, so on and so forth.  Or a lazy man way (I used to do this too) is simply take a screen shot and throw in a few notes on it and stash it in the right folder.

    So as you can see lot's of time, effort, and patience goes into learning the game via super precise club mappings, good notes, and fun projects (very rewarding seeing work pay off).  And to be quite honest, it's by far and away the most enjoyable part of the game.  I could easily spend 5 or 6 hours on one specific spot on a single hole fine tuning my notes.

    The more you learn via notes and mappings directly translates into how well you can intuitively play and judge future shots you have never seen before. 

    At some point, with so few courses and so few hole positions after you've played for several years day in and day out (just look at top of Money List) I"m sure the point comes you never need notes or mappings again.  You can just look and instantly know what to do. How rewarding can that actually be?

    I was planning on taking on some new course note projects but Battlefield One is almost here (Oct 21 2016!!!!!!!!!!)!!!  At that point I can guarantee Wgt won't see light of day for at least 6 months.

  • razza31
    703 Posts
    Tue, Sep 27 2016 1:18 PM

    thewonderstuff:
    for me personally player 2 has easily the greater advantage

    easily!

  • SlicedPepper
    796 Posts
    Tue, Sep 27 2016 7:27 PM

    Couldn't agree more. I play the game to relax and have a little fun with friends.  And learn the game.

    Golf is a game of risk and reward. There's nothing better than hitting a great shot. But in the same vein there is nothing better than saving par after a horrible shot.

    You take your punishment and move on.

    Someone posted about pro golfers having caddies with insane course knowledge. That they do. But those caddies learned from experience, not carrying calculators and spread sheets. I believe the PGA Tour would frown on that.

    As Arnold Palmer said of his father Deacon teaching him to play the game, " Hit it and go find it. " 

  • GitUsummaDis
    468 Posts
    Tue, Sep 27 2016 7:34 PM

    Just you wait. PGA Tour caddies will be carrying ipads in no time. LOL joking but you never know. :)

  • SlicedPepper
    796 Posts
    Tue, Sep 27 2016 8:56 PM

    GitUsummaDis:
    PGA Tour caddies will be carrying ipads in no time.

    I could actually see that. A lot easier than carrying around all those course books.

  • dryspot
    730 Posts
    Wed, Sep 28 2016 11:50 AM

    Most prob can play blind folded.

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