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My 64 Wedge

• GitUsummaDis 468 Posts

  Tue, Sep 20 2016 4:29 PM

  I was in practice mode doing some testing with my Cleveland CG16 64W 60yd cause I was having an issue with this in play mode.

  Here's the scenario.

  39 yds to the pin. If I hit it 68% no back spin that's like 40 yds with my wedge if you calculate it, or so you would think. It comes up well short. I determined that I need to hit it 75% full back spin that's 45 yds calculated. And that drops it right on the flag. The same is gonna go for all percentages of my 64W and even my 70W when I need it.

  So why is this?

  Do I need to add a multiplier to my wedges or add 2 yds to each shot or something like that to get the right distance?

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Tue, Sep 20 2016 4:41 PM

  GitUsummaDis:

  39 yds to the pin. If I hit it 68% no back spin that's like 40 yds with my wedge if you calculate it, or so you would think

  This is a gamer move and is never going to be consistent. You can't apply %s to swings that aren't linear. 68% does not mean you get 68% of the rated yardage. You have to figure out for yourself exactly what 68% gets and in this case, you should learn it doesn't get 40 yards.  LOL

  Take yourself out to someplace like BPB back 9 and punch your way around with that 64W. My guess is you'll be quite surprised at how consistent and accurate it is, especially if you use a Shot Pal or a piece of tape on your monitor.  :-)

• Bruntski 43 Posts

  Tue, Sep 20 2016 4:47 PM

  YankeeJim:

  GitUsummaDis:

  39 yds to the pin. If I hit it 68% no back spin that's like 40 yds with my wedge if you calculate it, or so you would think

  This is a gamer move and is never going to be consistent. You can't apply %s to swings that aren't linear. 68% does not mean you get 68% of the rated yardage. You have to figure out for yourself exactly what 68% gets and in this case, you should learn it doesn't get 40 yards.  LOL

  Take yourself out to someplace like BPB back 9 and punch your way around with that 64W. My guess is you'll be quite surprised at how consistent and accurate it is, especially if you use a Shot Pal or a piece of tape on your monitor.  :-)

   

  Jim, You put it very clear how powerful that 64 Cleveland is using the punch mode. I agree 110%

  Great shot (x - many) in advance :-)

  Bruntski

   

• GitUsummaDis 468 Posts

  Tue, Sep 20 2016 5:10 PM

  YankeeJim:

  GitUsummaDis:

  39 yds to the pin. If I hit it 68% no back spin that's like 40 yds with my wedge if you calculate it, or so you would think

  This is a gamer move and is never going to be consistent. You can't apply %s to swings that aren't linear. 68% does not mean you get 68% of the rated yardage. You have to figure out for yourself exactly what 68% gets and in this case, you should learn it doesn't get 40 yards.  LOL

  Take yourself out to someplace like BPB back 9 and punch your way around with that 64W. My guess is you'll be quite surprised at how consistent and accurate it is, especially if you use a Shot Pal or a piece of tape on your monitor.  :-)

  Okay thanks. It's only on my wedges. It seems like there's no power in them below 75%. My iron set is spot on with the % vs yardage. I'll try the punch shot. I was always afraid that shot wouldn't carry when close to the green and for that matter stop because of the low trajectory. Happy golfing.

   

• Luciano18 318 Posts

  Tue, Sep 20 2016 6:01 PM

  GitUsummaDis:

  It seems like there's no power in them below 75%.

  Actually, as Jim suggested take it out and try it in different scenarios

  I use 50% power with my TM 64d from 20/30 or 30/40 sand(more or less depending on elevation - but only a bit)

  It flies about 11yd and rolls the last couple to a very consistent 13yd shot

  Still learning other uses so as a bad scenario comes up I try to replicate it to see what works best. Keep in mind also that the rough on one course may not act the same on another.

  Hit'em straight

  Luciano

• SidersBest 873 Posts

  Tue, Sep 20 2016 6:16 PM

  I hope you take a little advice from a former MMCC Clash Director. For the pass year and a half I just played and it took me this long to make Master but you've done it in a third of the time or less.Congratulations! But you need to learn to map your clubs. Kilbrar, I think that's how to spell her name has a lot of good information on how to do this. The Countess can share some of her wisdom with you and Bob Bench is a wizard. See if you can pick his brain. But if you don't know exactly what distance you'll get with your current balls and wedges you're in a crap shoot

  Siders Best

  PS:In practice mode use current balls with current clubs to get accurate results but if you're hitting 700 credit ball you might consider using the rock

• K7JBQ 1,469 Posts

  Tue, Sep 20 2016 8:31 PM

  The key word is "linear." Between 90 to 100 %, most clubs are. Below 90% they aren't. As noted, all you can do is hit 'em and keep notes.

  My 64 degree Max is now a killer on flop shots as short as 7 yards, but it's taken a lot of practice.

• borntobesting 9,752 Posts

  Tue, Sep 20 2016 8:56 PM

  The Cleveland wedges both the CG16's and the 588's are more linear in the punch mode than they are in full. They are close from 90% and above but not below 90%. I rely on a combination of % and avatar movements.

• GitUsummaDis 468 Posts

  Tue, Sep 20 2016 9:50 PM

  Well maybe it's a combination of my G25 irons and Nike balls but my iron set the way I have them mapped out are quite linear. I see what yardage I want to hit them and on the % that yardage is I can use that % on the shot pal. They stick where I want them when I ding +/- a tad.

  I flop a lot with my wedges. I love it. it's 30 to 85 yd range with my wedges I need to work on. Like born said. A combination of % and club movements. I need to hit them harder than what I would think. And I'll work on those punches too. Thank you all for the tips.

• alosso 21,088 Posts

  Wed, Sep 21 2016 12:00 AM

  GitUsummaDis:

  I was in practice mode doing some testing with my Cleveland CG16 64W 60yd

  You should tell us that it is a L8 Cleve - big difference in performance to a L70+ Cleve, and to the L59 G25 irons that you use!

  When I read "no power below 70%" I thought of Starter wedges - I couldn't play them below 70%. Apparently, they do not differ too much:

  - highly nonlinear for shots with reduced power,

  - only upper %% range usable,

  - low spin,

  - probably a weak trajectory causing a lot of roll, and flops might look like pitches.

  I hope that they are at least a tad better than Starters from green bunkers!

   

  Want an advice? As a L69 Master, you have plenty opportunities, it all depends on your budget:

  With low budget, get the two Ping tour wedges of L60 and use them together with the 64°. Or, buy a L39 set of ATV: 64°, 60° and 54° give nominal distances of 41, 50, 62, 77, 80(?) and 98 yds with punch and full shots.

  The pinnacle are the L79 Cleves (very expensive) and the L86+ ATVs (only little less expensive). Some believe in the top notch MAX - I don't know them. For a top game, you'll need one of those.

  Last but not least: You might save some credits by stepping back from those L48 Nikes. Try the L33 or L35 Callies...

  Have fun!!