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"When is a putt not a putt, but it is a putt?"

• HackWilson1930 1,437 Posts

  Wed, Jan 11 2017 5:09 AM

  I hit my tee shot on RSG number 11, left and below the hole onto the fringe. My caddie pulls out the putter and I decide to go with his choice as the putt looks fairly straight, up 2 feet and about 47 feet in length. After a survey of the putt I go ahead and hit it. Next I hear the clunk as it hits the bottom of the cup, and that weird guy in the gallery shouting "Amazing, simply amazing!"   The scorecard comes up and I am awarded a 2.

  Now the interesting part. After I finish the round, I do a quick check of the stats and I notice that the made putts distance is about 40 feet. Strange, since I did make a 47 foot putt. I also see that I took 11 putts. So I go to the scorecard and for total putts it lists 12.  I now have a Zen moment when I realize that a putt that I made is not a putt but it is a putt.

  And I have no idea if WGT took one stroke off my ball usage or gave me a "free" putting stroke. I do know that they credited me with a holed shot of 17 yards and "lost" a putt. Certainly a Charlie Crews moment from an old TV show called "Life".

• PaulTon 10,731 Posts

  Wed, Jan 11 2017 5:23 AM

  Only putts from the green count as putts, you played an approach shot with a putter. You successfully non-putted using a putter. Simple really.

  Is a wedge shot from on the green a putt?

  Does it take a hit from your ball? Does it count in your putt stats for the round?

  Addled minds need to know...

• alosso 21,088 Posts

  Wed, Jan 11 2017 6:22 AM

  HackWilson1930:

  I do a quick check of the stats [...] I also see that I took 11 putts. So I go to the scorecard and for total putts it lists 12.  I now have a Zen moment when I realize that a putt that I made is not a putt but it is a putt.

  Two lists, two numbers. The putt from the fringe is counted as "a putter shot" on one side and as "not a putt" on the other side.

  Paul, I'm gonna answer your nosy questions in the quote, in bold:

  PaulTon:

  Is a wedge shot from on the green a putt? Nope.

  Does it take a hit from your ball? Yes  

  Does it count in your putt stats for the round? Nope

  Also, a putt from the fringe costs a shot on the ball.

  PaulTon:

  You successfully non-putted using a putter. Simple really.

  Brilliant phrasing - here's the real world counterpart - brilliant play by this sly old fox but confusing at first:

  (listen to the comment at 0:45)