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Sat, Feb 4 2017 9:25 PM (24 replies)
  • tennentssuper
    63 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2017 7:45 AM

    Corrected the title.

    By the way, I kept on thinking about this option and it came to mind that we could have games with more than 4 players (up to a dozen I guess) if only this option would be introduced.

  • garyk49
    2,330 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2017 12:11 PM

     

    Couple of things without the trouble of quoting.  Mainly for the OP.

    This game is supposed to mimic real golf.  A foursome is normally the max allowed on a course.

    This game is supposed to mimic real golf.  The away player normally is the first to hit. They don't all hit at the same time.

    There are exceptions to both of the above, but as stated is the norm.

    Phil, actually that is a cue stick and a cue ball,

    Alan, also thought, wth they doing talking about pool, on a golf forum.

  • tennentssuper
    63 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2017 2:59 PM

    garyk49:

    Couple of things without the trouble of quoting.  Mainly for the OP.

    This game is supposed to mimic real golf.  A foursome is normally the max allowed on a course.

    This game is supposed to mimic real golf.  The away player normally is the first to hit. They don't all hit at the same time.

    There are exceptions to both of the above, but as stated is the norm.

    I know in real golf the away player hits first, and I know each player hits on turn.

    In real golf.

    I'm advising to introduce an option to speed up some games.

    Does real golf permit games to be quit without affecting handicap?

    Does real golf permit games on "Best of" courses?

    Does real golf permit golfer to buy balls during game?

    And so on..

    You mean real golf is real and WGT must be real too?

    What the..

  • garyk49
    2,330 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2017 8:41 PM

    tennentssuper:

    garyk49:

    Couple of things without the trouble of quoting.  Mainly for the OP.

    This game is supposed to mimic real golf.  A foursome is normally the max allowed on a course.

    This game is supposed to mimic real golf.  The away player normally is the first to hit. They don't all hit at the same time.

    There are exceptions to both of the above, but as stated is the norm.

    I know in real golf the away player hits first, and I know each player hits on turn.

    In real golf.

    Nowhere did I say WGT was real golf.  I said it was supposed to mimic real golf. I pointed out something in response to your wishes.  As it may have appeared that you knew nothing of how golf is played.

    I'm advising to introduce an option to speed up some games.

    And thus allowing Inept WGT programmers to make matters worse.

    Does real golf permit games to be quit without affecting handicap?

    Handicap?  There is no handicap kept track of here.  And sure you can quit whenever you want.  See if the rest of your playing buddies will ever invite you to play with them again.  The same thing sort of happens around here also, but WGT won't let you name and shame, in the forums.

    Does real golf permit games on "Best of" courses?

    Of course it doesn't.  You go to your local course and play whats there.

    Does real golf permit golfer to buy balls during game?

    Every course that I am aware of you pass right by the clubhouse between 9 and 10, if you wanted more balls sure you can stop and buy them.  Oh you are talking professional golf.  Nope you are only allowed so many balls to start with, all the same kind mind you, you run out, tough luck, you are done for the day.

    And so on..

    So now you want to interject a number of other things concerning the game, that you never mentioned before.

    You mean real golf is real and WGT must be real too?

    See above, didn't say real, said mimic.

    What the..

    Here let me fix this for you.  What the fck.  I might say the same thing about your response.

     

  • tennentssuper
    63 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2017 8:47 PM

    So now I'm supposed to reply?

  • PhilEStein
    1,269 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2017 9:10 PM

    Mmmmm....are we again getting into the realms of the US making up it's own rules and names for things that have been tradition elsewhere for many centuries? It would seem in many spheres that someone in the US happens upon a tool or implement, doesn't know its name, and so gives it a name of his choosing. Then a week later another unknowing soul happens along and assumes this newly chosen name is the only name and within yet another short space of time this name is sacrosanct throughout the US. Including manufacturers of said item.

    To return to the cue;

    Gary, the origins of billiards and hence snooker and pool, lay in France  some 6 or 700 years ago. A week or two before the formation of the US I believe. I'm not going to say who is right or not but just say that here in the UK, if you asked someone what type or make of cuestick they had, you would receive a puzzled look and asked "wtf's a cuestick?". 

    As far as I am aware, the order of play in golf has always been determined either by drawing names from a bag, the short stick/straw method, or variations thereof, or as has become prevalent of late, the toss of a coin. No mention of an 'away' player which I can only assume derives from inter-college or state golf. It is not a rule of golf.

    Does real golf permit games to be quit without affecting handicap?

    Yes but it depends on a) if it's due to an illness and, b) if it's in a competition, then as long as it's reported to the stewards

    Does real golf permit games on "Best of" courses?

    No, The nearest being I suppose, is the Links Championship played over the St. A, Carnoustie and Kingsbairns links in the St. Andrews area of Scotland. There maybe others.

    Does real golf permit golfer to buy balls during game?

    Yes.  Rule 4-4a prohibits a player from borrowing a club from another player playing on the course but the Rules do not prevent a player from borrowing other items of equipment (balls, towels, gloves, tees, etc.) from another player or an outside agency. The Pro's shop being deemed an outside agency, as would a car in a parking lot I guess.

     

     

     

     

     

  • PhilEStein
    1,269 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2017 9:12 PM

    Dang Gary, you beat me to it. I might just add though that a player can carry as many balls as he or his caddie can carry but as you said, they must all be identical in make and model.

  • alosso
    21,070 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2017 9:33 PM

    See § 10, Order of Play, of the official Rules of Golf.

    PhilEStein:
    As far as I am aware, the order of play in golf has always been determined either by drawing names from a bag, the short stick/straw method, or variations thereof, or as has become prevalent of late, the toss of a coin.
    This concerns the order of play on the first tee, Rules of Golf §10.2 a for stroke play and is valid unless the CC issues a list of players in the groups. WGT copies the latter.

    PhilEStein:
    No mention of an 'away' player which I can only assume derives from inter-college or state golf. It is not a rule of golf.

    I beg to differ: §10.2 b states:

    "After the competitors have started play of the hole, the ball farthest from the hole is played first."

    WGT follows this rule with one exception common to casual real play IIRC: a closer ball outside the green is played before an "away" ball on the green.

  • alanti
    10,564 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2017 9:35 PM

    I am quite surprised at the tone from Tennentssuper....aka Brain Damage, from what was a reasonable reply from Gary.

    The OP initially wanted 2-3 player to hit at the same time, now with inflation that has risen to up to a dozen players. 

    Now the OP wanted to speed up game play.....and fair enough a 4 ball can takes some time......but try getting 12 players together and I bet more than one will take his own time which will annoy players like brain damage.....and then try to get 12 players to actually finish.....

    If speed is more important than the social aspect, play with yourself.....lordy you probably do anyway.

  • alanti
    10,564 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2017 9:38 PM

    alosso:

    I beg to differ: §10.2 b states:

    "After the competitors have started play of the hole, the ball farthest from the hole is played first."

    WGT follows this rule with one exception common to casual real play IIRC: a closer ball outside the green is played before an "away" ball on the green.

    +1 Paul....I had this debate in alt the other day...I was 4 yards from the hole just off the green......the opponents some 45 feet away in the green.

    I said I refuse to play first....gold is away lol......

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