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What causes Meter Skipping, and the WGT Flash Client

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Tue, Jan 24 2017 5:49 PM (14 replies)
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  • Sm0knGun
    39 Posts
    Mon, Jan 23 2017 3:28 PM

    It's pretty clear that your internet connection to the WGT servers affects how smoothly your meter runs. 

    I have played a game with a smooth meter, closed out of WGT and came back immediately, and had a chunky meter.  I have also left WGT up when I had a smooth meter and done something else, and came back to a smooth meter.

    This leads me to believe that your meter is directly involved with your connection to WGT, and not to how well your personal computer performs.

    If that IS the case, then I think WGT needs to alter how it interacts with the players.

    In an ideal world, WGT players would never have a meter skip.  This would be a function of their home computer and browser, and lets be honest just about any modern computer can run a flash based game with no lag or meter skip, unless there was a problem connecting with the host(WGT).

    Each client when they log onto WGT connects to one of many servers that you have active, however it seems to me that not all WGT servers are equal, and some of them have more meter lag than others.  It's something that you could measure with metrics.

    My final, and initial, point is that the WGT client'(flash based), should "Swing" on only the client side, and should not depend on a response from the server.

    I am not 100% sure that this is the problem with client meter skipping, but I think it is close.  Close enough for WGT to fix the problem.

     

     

     

     

  • VanMeerV
    1,037 Posts
    Mon, Jan 23 2017 6:12 PM

    wgt has issues with people having over 200 people on friends list because if servers, there for i am not sure there going to fix issues when they can blame things like flash, cookies and optimize but good luck '

     

    Vic  

  • alosso
    21,088 Posts
    Mon, Jan 23 2017 9:41 PM

    Sm0knGun:
    It's pretty clear that your internet connection to the WGT servers affects how smoothly your meter runs. 

    Pretty clear? Why? Some proof would be nice.

    I believe in an old report which stated that the meter runs independently to any network connection and is only affected by your local conditions. Only after the meter has been stopped, the information is sent to WGT and the shot comes back after being calculated.

  • PhilEStein
    1,269 Posts
    Tue, Jan 24 2017 2:19 AM

    Clear as mud to me. Instead of searching the universe for someone or something to blame, try looking closer to home. Like in a mirror for instance.

    While I'm not as OCD as Apex, I am a believer in maintaining a pretty clean, efficient and regularly updated station and doing what I can to keep it running as smoothly as possible. That also includes the occasional vacuum of fans in my pc tower. Apex does his every ten mins!

    The latter also applies to when I used to run a laptop. It doesn't take 5 mins to unscrew the back and either blast the crud out with a can of compressed air or vacuum it out. He says, looking around at the guilty faces.Oh yeah, something that's been on the 'meaning to do' list since forever. 

    It used to be that cooling the internal temps on a pc/laptop was the way to go as it was deemed they would run faster and therefore more efficiently but that was many years ago. Certainly folk appear to be lazier in these days of a throw away society. 

    To that end I used a USB powered lap cushion that contained a fan that blew cold air through the vents, onto the fan in the bottom of the laptop. In the main PC tower I built in nine cooling fans which was probably a mite OTT, but it sure ran cool. Things have probably changed a lot since.

    On top of the above, you have what could be seen to be self-destructive Flash Players and browsers that require un-installing and re-installing from time to time. Then on top of that again, you have dear old WGT. I'll say no more on that subject as that cold naughty step is not good for my piles.

    Then just when you think it's safe to step into the water along comes that 6m saltie, that is the the USA power supply system. Arguably the most decrepit power grid system among all developed nations. With all the surges, spikes and outages, non-conducive to running a smooth power supply to a delicate computer, to say the least. Who's to say your spiky meter isn't caused by your spiky mains power supply?

  • borntobesting
    9,751 Posts
    Tue, Jan 24 2017 4:05 AM

    alosso:

    Sm0knGun:
    It's pretty clear that your internet connection to the WGT servers affects how smoothly your meter runs. 

    Pretty clear? Why? Some proof would be nice.

    I believe in an old report which stated that the meter runs independently to any network connection and is only affected by your local conditions. Only after the meter has been stopped, the information is sent to WGT and the shot comes back after being calculated.

    Yes Alosso that report and proof came from the research and testing done by Andyson.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Tue, Jan 24 2017 5:10 AM

    Sm0knGun:
    My final, and initial, point is that the WGT client'(flash based), should "Swing" on only the client side, and should not depend on a response from the server.

    It doesn't. Nothing happens with the server until you click the swing and everything you do up to that point is 100% happening on your computer. 

  • Vaibhav5viv
    886 Posts
    Tue, Jan 24 2017 5:51 AM

    YankeeJim:

    Sm0knGun:
    My final, and initial, point is that the WGT client'(flash based), should "Swing" on only the client side, and should not depend on a response from the server.

    It doesn't. Nothing happens with the server until you click the swing and everything you do up to that point is 100% happening on your computer. 

    yup precisely 

  • PaulTon
    10,731 Posts
    Tue, Jan 24 2017 6:48 AM

    The OP has made a well thought out and cogent argument, it's just a pity his initial precept is 100% wrong.

  • zagraniczniak
    1,984 Posts
    Tue, Jan 24 2017 7:02 AM

    Why does the meter skip?

    • Because it hasn't a care in the world
    • Because the sky is blue and the sun is shining
    • Because it's in love
    • Because it's feelin' groovy.
    Why is that so wrong? 

  • PaulTon
    10,731 Posts
    Tue, Jan 24 2017 7:09 AM

    zagraniczniak:

    Why does the meter skip?

     

    • Because it hasn't a care in the world
    • Because the sky is blue and the sun is shining
    • Because it's in love
    • Because it's feelin' groovy.

    Why is that so wrong? 

     

    LMAO, excellent man!!

     

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