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Sun, Apr 16 2017 12:05 PM (104 replies)
  • lonniescott711
    4,207 Posts
    Sun, Apr 2 2017 7:45 AM

    Vaibhav5viv:

    lonniescott711:
    So that leaves the 50 , 54,and the 58 degree wedges to be added to the game . Any one of those could be programmed to be a 60 yd. wedge

    Lol... Why would a 50,54 or 58 deg wedge fly less than a 60 deg wedge? Should leave the 64 deg wedge spot vacant ideally.

    Because if everyone keeps complaining and raising a million dollars worth of hell over it WGT will have to do something . It may not make sense to you but when it comes to money thats what WGT understands . So they will add a club and give it whatever attributes are needed to keep players happy as long as it makes them money .

    By the time most players hit L80 they have a better idea of how to upgrade their clubs . If they remain the RTX 2.0 wedges will be all that is needed . Most of the players buying the new wedges are only buying eye candy they already had the best wedges . So although they may be new they still have the competition from the 2.0 wedges .

    Me Im just going to sit on the side lines and see whats going to happen . A lot of things that go on in the game dont make sense like this brand of wedges that doesnt have a 64 degree wedge . Also shot manipulations from VEM / deviation so adding something else to the game shouldnt be a problem for WGT .

     

  • borntobesting
    9,709 Posts
    Sun, Apr 2 2017 11:06 AM

    One thing I don't understand is why the level 96 Mack Daddy  60 degree wedge is only 75 yards when all  the lower level Mack Daddy 60 degree wedges are rated at 80 yards.

    As for the 64 degree it probably will never happen. Just look at the Ping Gorge wedges that replaced the Ping W wedges. There is no 64 degree Ping Gorge wedge even though many people begged for it.

  • dedBuNNy
    1,919 Posts
    Sun, Apr 2 2017 1:51 PM

    borntobesting:

    One thing I don't understand is why the level 96 Mack Daddy  60 degree wedge is only 75 yards when all  the lower level Mack Daddy 60 degree wedges are rated at 80 yards.

    If someone is using the 96 MD 60, maybe the can relay what happens when you hit it FS for 50%, does it act like the 588? Is it that good at maintaining yardages through a wide range? 

    The mid 60 sure doesn't, not at the moment anyway. 

    I suspect the mid level wedges won't change much, other than if they figure out how to fix the buggy distances. I suspect this is to force people to buy the 96 / 20 buck version. 

    Fail, I'll just use the ATV's accros the board and I don't think you'll see many top players dump the 588's any time soon. 

  • Dneirf
    438 Posts
    Mon, Apr 3 2017 11:35 PM

    dedBuNNy:

    borntobesting:

    One thing I don't understand is why the level 96 Mack Daddy  60 degree wedge is only 75 yards when all  the lower level Mack Daddy 60 degree wedges are rated at 80 yards.

    If someone is using the 96 MD 60, maybe the can relay what happens when you hit it FS for 50%, does it act like the 588? Is it that good at maintaining yardages through a wide range? ~snip~ 

    Why don't you just rent the club Champ?, or better still, purchase it and find out for yourself!

    You can then relay the results here to the Forums Thread.

    By renting, better still, purchasing the wedge, you will be accomplishing two things:

    [01] You will be improving your game play
    [02] You will be financially supporting the game

    However, these new Callaway Mack Daddy Forged Wedges will not do any video golfer or video champion any good as there exists no understanding of the mechanics surrounding the game of golf. And that is quite evident throughout the Postings in this Thread.

    The Callaway Mack Daddy Forged •R• Grind wedges are all about trajectory, spin, and distance, allowing the golfer complete control of the shot/s. These wedges are precision tools for serious dedicated golfers.

     

    DYNAMIC TIP:
    To open the club face, add more spin to the shot by lowering the dot located in the center of the golf ball. The lower the dot from the center of the ball the more open the club face. The higher the dot from the center of the ball the more closed the club face. This is called "Bending", bending the club or bending the loft.

    High bounce clubs should be bent strong to get the lofts you want. Low bounce clubs should be bent weak to get the lofts you want. Callaway's Mack Daddy Forged wedge bounce is relatively in the middle, existing only one bounce option per loft.

    Also, the higher the trajectory, the more distance required to reach the target/zone. Therefore, an 64Degree wedge is theoretically not needed.

    HERE IS DNEIRFS' EPILOGUE TO THIS THREAD:

    Berto057:
    ~snip~ A much better distance selection for the MD's would have been 105/90/75.  But even then, without a 64-degree, top players will be unlikely to consider switching.  Such a shame; this could have been a spectacular offering. ~snip~

    It is an spectacular offering!

    The Callaway Mack Daddy Forged C Grind Wedges, what Callaway calls an •R• Grind, were crafted by Roger Cleveland in collaboration with the best golf players in the world.

    Now, all of the best golf players in the world involved in the design of these wedges ALL AGREE that there exists no reason or need for an 64Degree wedge with this line of wedges.

    Who could be more correct, the best golf players in the world or amateur video golf players that exist no understanding of the mechanics of the game of golf?

    MACK DADDY 60D IN ACTION

     

    God Bless,
    -Dneirf

     

  • Berto057
    219 Posts
    Tue, Apr 4 2017 10:20 AM

    Dneirf:

    [The Callaway Mack Daddy Forged •R• Grind wedges are all about trajectory, spin, and distance, allowing the golfer complete control of the shot/s. These wedges are precision tools for serious dedicated golfers.

    Spot on.  Bugs aside, I'm struggling to see how the top shelf MD (L94-96) fit with the iron (L97,L100) options:

    • MD (L94-96): precision 4.7, forgiveness 4.0, spin 4.5, meter 4.5, dist 115/100/75
    • SH (L97):       precision 5.0, forgiveness 3.0, spin 4.5, meter 4.2, dist 120-225
    • Apex (l100):   precision 5.1, forgiveness 3.5, spin 4.5, meter 3.7, dist 120-225

    The meter matching and spin work work well, but the irons are a dot+ more precise (albeit less forgiving).  With only a 5y spacing to the PW, the MD-52 is not very helpful (lump in the bin with the hybrids woods).  The MD-56 could be useful, but the spacing to the MD-60 is too large.  And why get only one (MD-56) mismatched wedge, likely leaving strange spacing in the punch, flop and pitch distances?

    A much better distance selection for the MD's would have been 105/90/75.  But even then, without a 64-degree, top players will be unlikely to consider switching.  Such a shame; this could have been a spectacular offering.

    Play well, --Berto

  • skccvb
    799 Posts
    Tue, Apr 4 2017 12:05 PM

    Cleveland wedges are still the best and they match the top Nike irons and R1 driver meter speeds (and my BB 3 wood)- sayin'

  • dedBuNNy
    1,919 Posts
    Tue, Apr 4 2017 2:25 PM

    Dneirf:

    However, these new Callaway Mack Daddy Forged Wedges will not do any video golfer or video champion any good as there exists no understanding of the mechanics surrounding the game of golf. And that is quite evident throughout the Postings in this Thread.

    Well seeing as you thought it your job to call me out - ..i., 

    What is more than evident is your complete and utter lack of understanding and grasp of one very simply and well understood fact here - This game is not a golf simulator and it's playing enviroment does not in any way whatsoever represent the real world game of golf. 

    As for 12.00 MD wedges? They're playing quite nicely now... someone mentioned they'd adjusted some numbers, seems so as the punch is hitting how one would expect it to. 64 Degree? The ATV 64 is fantastic, always has been. 

    So ya, see ya around ****head.... ;-) 

    Have a nice day!!

     

  • Woodoworkery
    3,498 Posts
    Tue, Apr 4 2017 2:58 PM

    So the 64 MD is fixed???

     

  • lonniescott711
    4,207 Posts
    Tue, Apr 4 2017 3:58 PM

    Its amazing that WGT as yet hasnt commented on this wedge mess nor responded as to whether they have resolved the issues as of yet . No comments from the Mods who now seem to have disappeared and no replies to an 8 page thread as of yet . 

  • Woodoworkery
    3,498 Posts
    Tue, Apr 4 2017 4:12 PM

    They did say they was aware of the problem, I was just wondering if it was fixed as to the post above mine from bunny.

    Also strange we got a 64 high level wedge with only a 75 distance rather a 80 distance like the lower level 64 wedge of the same make

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