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• Morton1768 247 Posts

  Wed, Aug 2 2017 1:49 PM

  As a club owner I see the tremendous amount of profit country clubs generate for WGT. At one time I even saw an option that said bank (something like that?) and thought that was a great idea. Apparently, this is a one sided coin and the profits your country club generate for WGT are not to be shared in any way. No, I'm not asking for a large piece of the pie, just something for incentive. I see no incentive in creating club tournaments and forking over my own money when it only helps WGT in their earnings.

  My exchange with WGT today.

  Will there ever be an option for club owners to get some of the profits a country club generates for WGT? Not to bank it into our own account, but to use for country club tournaments and prizes for our members. I have members begging for credits and honestly I don't have that kind of cash laying around. It seems only fair that country club owners should receive a percentage of those profits because country clubs generate incredible profits for you. The incentive is becoming less and less appealing to me.

  Dear Morton1768,
  
  Thank you for your message. Unfortunately doing such a thing would be extremely easy to exploit so it's more than likely never going to be a feature in the game. I'm sorry for any trouble this has caused.
  
  Sincerely,
  
  WGT Member Services

   

   

   

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Wed, Aug 2 2017 4:46 PM

  I think the CS response is where it is at and the reason why the Bank idea never got actioned beyond eventually culling it completely.  Around this place if there is a way to exploit something you can pretty much assume it is being exploited.

  In the US (generally as I understand it) credits can be accumulated reasonably well with surveys and so on.  OK it's time but some are smart with that.  WElsewhere WGT really show they are a very old fashioned US centric place.  Nothing as global as should be about the offers at all inspite of the name and TG don't show much interest in changing that??

  Also WGT will not reduce prices and this would effectively be the case here, unless it can be clearly shown to increase revenue tomorrow.  

  Every impression given is that spending is at a minimum, unless they are hiding their light under a bushel with some super non-flash PC version due.

   

   

• Morton1768 247 Posts

  Thu, Aug 3 2017 8:12 AM

  Appreciate the response, Jimbog. It's stingy otherwise they would have a general pot in which the owners and directors could use a % of club earning only for the payoff of club tournaments. If I were truly an awesome everything like some players, ya, I guess it could be exploited, but it should be a symbiotic relationship anyway. Just 5% of club earnings would do the job of creating club tournaments that give incentive for members to play more. Thus, the profit for WGT would recoup that lost percentage in more rounds which equate to more balls and equipment bought. Guess, they'll spend their energies on ridiculous looking avatars instead of actually helping those that create their biggest revenues.

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Fri, Aug 4 2017 12:38 AM

  If everyone were honest like you it might fly..They thought of it but around this place there would be many CCs setting up to use that.  They already set up comps to credit swap and some of it without a rake from WGT would be a red rag to a bull.  And WGT have no will to spend a penny on fiscal drag speculation or resource to police.

  There have also been many ideas for comps, but from WGT we have the clash.  Spend enough (alot) and in return for deleting skill anyone can have that winning feeling.  Amazing to me that some go for it, but they do.  

  New Ideas seem to have to come up with something most months and this month, in return for some issues, we get course builders at L19.  Most clubs used a small glitch for a few players to level up a bit quicker, but some whole set ups went hell for leather to reach astronomical levels quickly...................Fine to an extent but they eventually fix that and frankly how many will really care for it anyway what happens next month new club wise?

  Now I am not saying some clubs are anything other than active but clearly WGT have no eye to what will happen with growth next month.  It's like head long into the 08 GFC - everything based on this month, and let the next sort out on it's own.

  I actually do wish the game well in the long run, but long run here is not what New Ideas seem tasked with at all...Fast immediate dollars on the cheap, no matter how small, and let tomorrow happen if it happens.  Maybe slightly too harsh but too much that way as well...

• Morton1768 247 Posts

  Fri, Aug 4 2017 10:48 AM

  Month to month profits, or even daily profits, I understand that. And yes I can setup tournaments at my club that will lower any players average and eventually put them at a higher tier. But WGT has to see the incredible profits country clubs generate otherwise they wouldn't push you the individual to join a country club.

  A simple look at Club Earnings tells the story of why country clubs are a vital revenue generating idea for WGT. Yes, I enjoy having my own club and thankfully the majority of my members aren't looking to make a dime from my country club. At the same time I would like to create tournaments that payback those members in the balls they buy and the equipment they upgrade to.

  A small percentage of club earnings wouldn't hurt WGT in the least, and if they're worried I or any club owner scams their system they can simply exclude us from tournaments that payout. If I win the club tournament just take those winnings and put it back into the club percentage. Highly unlikely because I have players at my club that can kick my butt.

  It just looks like it's a one way street on this venture. WGT has the technology to do this, they just won't. I'm just trying to figure out what the incentive is in owning a country club other than setting up tournaments set to extremely easy and calling yourself the owner of a club?

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sat, Aug 5 2017 1:12 AM

  OK so take just the earnings that are internal to the club - few donations for tourneys and maybe even just purchases:

  New club starts up called "letsscam" for instance........15 members all hell bent on scams to generate a dime, and with their second or third accounts and sometimes both.

  The owner "Scammer1 avatar" donates 500 credits from the "bank".  The bank has 500 credits built up from clubs and balls purchased.................Someone wins the comp and the club disbands after someone saves a few credits on their new lets take Legend tier brackets apart L85 irons..............................Now that's assuming it is even that water tight, no loopholes in the code.  Unfortunately, around this place it will go missing unless it is nailed down and guarded 24/7.............

  The place looks very underfunded.  The new funds from TG never showed, by the way things look anyway.  They have not even replaced Nike balls yet.  The whole general idea I think just went in the too hard basket and no resource to look more anyway.