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How it is humanly possible? a 54???

• mrenn29 380 Posts

  Tue, May 24 2011 10:07 PM

  B0gey is right,countless number of hours played brings the experience and knowledge of the game to post low scores.For those who think its mechanical help,sorry to put a monkey wrench into your thinking but its not.There are fairways on par 5's that if I dont ding I will miss the back side of that hill and that will keep me from reaching in 2.The best players on here all have one thing in common,knowledge of the courses.That comes with playin,plain and simple.Hell 55 from legends tees has been done on BP,SA that I know of,and 56 on oak.So hang in there,play the game,enjoy it,and sooner or later you too will improve if you take your mental notes on your shots.I for one wish they made the conditions alot tougher in the qualifier but its still fun to play a new course.

• Bristoluk 412 Posts

  Wed, May 25 2011 4:01 AM

  MrOgre:

  And so are the players defending them. Are they paying you off or something?

  I guess you all believe in the parting of the Red Sea too......

  Lol im not defending any of them,im just getting fecked off with threads about this subject all the time, you want to get as good as them, put the time and effort in, if not play your own game ,and quit feckg complaining about players that are better than you and others on here, because of there time and effort that they want to put into this game, and thats for all the petty complainers on here.

• lvietri 3,326 Posts

  Wed, May 25 2011 4:08 AM

  Bristoluk .. you shouldn't be ashamed of defending anyone.    The OP should be ashamed that after signing up in November 2010 .. he has only played three 9 hole games, and one CTTH.  He clearly has no clue what the courses look like, or how the premium clubs / balls react.   He hasn't put in the 5,000 plus games that the good players has to understand the courses and how to hit each shot with each club.

  Actually --- i'm ashamed that I'm even giving him the time of day to comment .... he is clueless.

• SGTBilko 1,686 Posts

  Wed, May 25 2011 4:34 AM

  maybe it is me but I have to agree that the current score is not that low considering a large part of the field is at 61, 62, and 63. The key on congressional is the front 9. Scoring -6 or -7 under is not that hard on the front 9. I shot a 60 and still had 2 bogey's. Yes it took practice and equipment is paramount but during the last open I did not have the equipment to compete nor was I able to purchase it. No, the current system is right, if everyone could buy the same equipment the multiple accounts would quadruple overnight.

• edstang 83 Posts

  Wed, May 25 2011 10:41 AM

  Hi Golfers,

    Since there are a lot of us on the assisted golfing band wagon complaining about the consistent score`s being in the 50`s, which I still think is beyond comprehension even after reading the blog,s supporting it. But I can see MBaggese and bogeybuster playing wgt.  many time`s per day and have scoring records in the consistent low 60`s which I can believe in. which are excellent despite the variations and inconsistency of this simulation. And their are many players like them playing many hours every day. I cannot find the time to do that and I don`t expect to score like them.  But why do so many excellent golfers idolize the play of the one`s who win the tournament`s most of the time when Your scoring is in the low end of 60`s? Which should win tournaments. Are there Super star`s in sports, yes. Supermen and Women no. 

   

       Edstang

   

   

• Jerm65 1,413 Posts

  Wed, May 25 2011 12:15 PM

  oneputtdavid:

  Jerm65:

  I did have some assistance though (if you can call it that?), in the form of my non-prescription, organic glaucoma medication. 

  Oh, so your an unlicensed Pharmacist?...00/

  When it comes to self-medication, aren't we all? lol

  oneputtdavid:

  Oh, now I get it.......you got the good S<>T...')

  As GrandPappy liked to say, "If yer gonna be a bear...be a Grizzly!"

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Wed, May 25 2011 1:00 PM

  edstang:

  But I can see MBaggese and bogeybuster playing wgt.  many time`s per day and have scoring records in the consistent low 60`s which I can believe in. which are excellent despite the variations and inconsistency of this simulation. And their are many players like them playing many hours every day. I cannot find the time to do that and I don`t expect to score like them.  But why do so many excellent golfers idolize the play of the one`s who win the tournament`s most of the time when Your scoring is in the low end of 60`s?

   

  Ed, 

   

  A couple of things, I rarely watch TV, unless it's a sports thing...so instead of 2-3 hours of the tube every night, I bang it out here.  Yes, I also have a busy schedule being the sole support of a family of 5, but I still can find enough time to play here.

  I think the reason a lot of WGT'ers keep giving props/respect (Idolize might be a bit too strong) to the best players is some of us have seen them play on live feeds and yes, they miss greens, hit into the rough, etc, and are just that good to recover for pars and birdies.

  Another reason is many players aspire to be as consistent as the topflite/elite players are, we know that if we didn't miss the ding on a few approach shots and a few putts, we'd be posting some really good scores as well...knowing it's possible for us if we could just put it together, is the reason why many will defend those who are consistent.

• lvietri 3,326 Posts

  Wed, May 25 2011 2:02 PM

  One thing to add ... you don't need to hit "ding" your shot in order to be good at this game.   The top players don't ding as often as you think (I'm not one of them but .. i do play with them).   However they know which side to miss on in order to leave the best chance for a birdie ... and they rarely make a bogey.

• jakestanfill7 949 Posts

  Wed, May 25 2011 7:36 PM

  lvietri:

  One thing to add ... you don't need to hit "ding" your shot in order to be good at this game.   The top players don't ding as often as you think (I'm not one of them but .. i do play with them).   However they know which side to miss on in order to leave the best chance for a birdie ... and they rarely make a bogey.

  Nailed it again Lou.  I'm always considering wind, spin, and where to miss meter for best chance to get within 15 feet even if I do miss the ding.  I see far too many people play with full BS on all shots and you do have to be PERFECT if you play that way.

  Here's what happens with full BS.

  1. Ball stops dead where it lands or comes backwards in most cases.  If you miss meter you get penalized distance in a huge way.
  2. With no spin, or even slight top meter, misses are much more forgiving.  This works because dinged shots with no spin check up much quicker than meter misses.  So if I miss meter with no spin or even top, the ball release and roll makes up for distance penalty of meter miss more often than not. 

  • Example- Kia 12 on tourney greens. New TM irons, 170 out with 10 wind in face (hole plays 5 feet down from there).  Many people would hit 175 full BS.  Miss the ding and you're staring at a 30 foot putt. The best shot would be to hit about 168-9 with with 1/3 TS.  If dinged the shot should end up about 5 feet past hole.  If missed within 2 of center either side the ball will rest about 4-5 feet short and a bit to one side or the other.  Probably looking at about a 12-3 foot putt.

  To back up your point Lou, I shot 27 in the STA Front Nine RG today and only had 6 dingers on full shots the entire side.  Made eagle on #5 for total of 10 putts.  That means I dinged only 6 of 17 full shots, or about 36%.  YOU DON'T HAVE TO DING EVERY SHOT TO SHOOT LOW SCORES HERE FOLKS....you just have to learn how to play the game.

  Realistic, absolutely not, but still better than anything else out there.  Maybe one day when we incorporate stance and lie you'll start to see slightly more realistic scores.  Hope this provides some insight.

   

• pejon60 250 Posts

  Wed, May 25 2011 7:40 PM

  I have been reading these posts and having trouble not puking

  I'm a Tour Master with a 61.1 average  I play on average 108 holes a day ranked and practice

  So I can play this WGT reasonably well

  I have a low 18 hole score of 60 and a 9hole of 29 

  I only say that to preface the remarks I am about to make:

   

  There are cheaters on this site...pure and bloody simple....I know that for a fact and so does WGT...They have had a cheating program emailed to them by a very respected player on this site...he received it from a Legend who has been posting the kind of scores this thread is about.

  The program allows you to put in the distance, elevation, wind speed and direction. It then selects the club.... all you then do is click the mouse to start the shot

   

  The argument that has been put up here that the players know the courses like the back of their hands and thats why they score so well is destroyed by the fact that scores as low as 55 were being posted at Congressional THE DAY IT OPENED FOR PLAY.......so the players could NOT have known the course well now could they!!! 

  I'm sure there are some very very good players on this site but to consistently shoot 54s and 55s fairly from the championship tees is NOT possible

  The site itself has glitches and anomalies.... the meter stutter is a problem..... the hand eye co-ordination of a person is NEVER 100% perfect

  Consistently shooting 54-55 around Bethpage or Oakmont or St Andrews or Congressional off the back tees cant happen and anyone who says it can is having themselves on!!!