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Fri, Sep 1 2017 4:50 PM (31 replies)
  • Fencer100
    2,064 Posts
    Thu, Aug 31 2017 9:25 AM

    lonniescott711:

    @ gonfission dont get caught in the trap my friend . This is an individual that you can`t argue with especially in depth . So let them be as they are and the better it will be . When a person cant see the error of their ways then correction will be lost on them . Also no need in perhaps winding up and getting yourself placed on forum moderation . So let it go as there are more improtant things that we can find to post on and address . 

    +1

  • gonfission
    2,248 Posts
    Thu, Aug 31 2017 11:04 AM

    I'm BACK!

    lonniescott711:
    This is an individual that you can`t argue with especially in depth .

    He's as deep as a puddle, on asphalt, on a 100 degree day, Lonnie. Evaporation has already taken its toll, from what I am reading.

    I know bait when I see it. Thanks for keeping me on the "up & up", though. Appreciate it. Offering free education to people, is usually a good thing. ;-))

    Image result for bait

    I'm not the kind to go running to WGT, because some lunatic wants to look stupid.

    He is the perfect exemplification, of why I don't have to beat people up. They do a far better job of doing it themselves, than I ever could, as seen here.

    Someone said something about a hole. Perfect elocution. It's a 2fer.

    Digging "a Hole" for an "A-HOLE". Yeah, that works good Fencer, brilliant.

    I would think the caustic posts he leaves everywhere, would put him in the "time out" corner. Many people that follow him, have seen plenty, I'm sure.

    What do I know?

    ______________________________________________

    I am hearing more about Houston. 40,000 + homes GONE! Businesses will be down for months. No home, no work. It is unimaginable. I mean that. I have been in the thick of disasters.

    People that are high and dry are going to be out of work also. This snowball is going to be huge. Get ready for $4.00 + a gallon of gas again.

    Two refineries down. That's 1/3 of them. I don't think we have built any new ones, since the 70's, if I am correct. Good thinking on the globalists part. If it weren't for the internal combustion engine, not a single rescue would be effected.

    People without insurance, are going to walk away from everything they worked for. Where does one start over again?

    I hear that the new drone operators, are going to perhaps be pivotal, in helping people get there insurance claims processed faster. Regulations for operating them are easing up this year as well.

    No more registration with the FAA.

    One good note, in an all around complete cluster f**k

     

  • drmoose
    3,543 Posts
    Thu, Aug 31 2017 11:31 AM

    Image result for the problem ain't there's too many fools

    Somewhat apropos, I believe .

    Doc :)

  • phred952
    2,714 Posts
    Thu, Aug 31 2017 11:39 AM

    Hi Joe,

    This is a disaster of near biblical proportions.  The area of damage far surpasses the Houston area.  There is known to be major damage from Corpus Christi to at least Port Arthur, TX.  A distance of about 330 miles.  Houston is about 50 mile inland from Galveston.

    Also as the storm moved to the East and then Northeast, there probably has been damage in Louisiana.  However, Houston is getting most of the coverage, being the 4th largest city in the country.

    Estimates are that between 300,000 and 500,000 vehicles will be totaled due to flood damage.  The number of people in shelters continues to grow as more are rescued.  People with flat bottomed boats have come from Dallas (240 miles) and Louisiana to help rescue stranded people.

    As for us, we are safe.  We are about 50 miles NW of Houston, or about 25 miles West of Conroe.  We had lots of rain, but our house is up on a bit of arise, and water flows around it.  There is a lake that drains away from us.  

    Sadly people in the back of our subdivision have flooded before and a few have had it happen again.  But we got rain in bands with breaks between them.  So our drainage was good enough to protect most people right here.  Trees blown down in a few spots were the biggest problem.  Neighbors were helping deal with that as soon as anyone reported a problem.

    All though the area citizens have stepped up to help each other.  I'm proud of what my fellow Texans have done to help each other.  Probably most of the high water rescues were by "just plain folks" helping out.

    As mentioned before, this disaster will effect most of the country in many ways.  Most petrochemicals are made in the Houston area.  Gas may be in shorter supply.  How long it takes for any of the plants to come back online will be a big question.

    I would ask everyone to have those people displaced from their homes in your thoughts and prayers.

    Jeff

  • gonfission
    2,248 Posts
    Thu, Aug 31 2017 12:51 PM

    I forgot about Samuel Langhorne Clemens, Doc

    Time to grab my boot straps...

    Jeff, very glad to hear you're alright. I have a reverence for Texas, and its people, like no others, in the states.

    F. Lee Bailey taught me two things in life, working a short time for him.

    1- "If you're ever going to steal something, make sure it is worth more than ten million. You're going to need at least 1/2, to retain me, and most likely the rest, to defend you".

    2- "Don't ever rob a bank in Texas".

    Words to live by.

    They don't refer to your state as "The Great State of Texas", for nothing. Met many Texans in my life. All have respect. The very few that forgot, were reminded by their own, immediately.

    I can just imagine the used car sales, for the next 5 years. That should be criminal right there. Strip them all, and melt them down, instead of being sold to the uninitiated.

    Insurance companies are going to be begging for more bailouts. Time to let them fold, I say. They should have bought insurance against, "pay out insurance", from me.

    This is just terrible. Remember when "W", sent an aircraft carrier to  Indonesia, to help the tsunami victims? He was berated for sending a war machine, to a disaster area. People don't realize what's floating, in all that water, they're wading through. Dysentery is going to be rampant. 

    They are floating hospitals, power generation for a small city, fresh water from desalinization, feed 5000 people, 3 times a day, and a LOT more. Perhaps some affected, will understand why he did that, now.

    I heard Joel Osteen had to be prodded, to open up his mega church, to victims. You'd think, he would have been the first, to offer the olive branch. Deity must have been out on the course that day. PFFFT!

    Yeah, this is going to be nation wide. The thing that will pi-ss me off, is, for a month, it will be forefront in the press. Most likely less. Then its back to the whipping post, as usual, instead of actually helping victims, in our own country.

    People after the towers, were driving around with flags on their vehicles. 3 weeks later, what few were left, were shredded, and not retired properly.

    When the entire national guard for a city is called out, it is no small matter. Let's see how the good folks of Texas are going to handle this as compared to Catrina. See if it turns into another racist platform.

    I surely hope not.

    If anyone is interested in mother natures wrath, below is pretty interesting, and downright scary stuff, regarding Harvey

     

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/24/us/hurricane-harvey-texas.html

  • phred952
    2,714 Posts
    Thu, Aug 31 2017 2:10 PM

    Thanks my friend.  I moved here almost 10 years ago, and found out myself Texans are very remarkable people.  They will literally give the shirt off their backs to help someone out.  Even a complete stranger.

    As far as Joel Osteen, it was reported locally that there was flooding around the area and in parts of their parking garage and building were under water.  Also the church building was unlocked with people there.  I didn't hear of anyone who tried to go thre and was turned away.

     It seems that he was in part castigated for not making a statement that the facility was available.  I personally don't know enough about them and can only pass along what was reported on our local news stations.

    I would warn everyone any where not to consider buying a used car in the next few years unless you personally know the seller and the history of the car.  Scammers have taken advantage of people with flood cars in the past and will do so again.  BUYER BEWARE.

    Jeff

  • fatdan
    3,379 Posts
    Thu, Aug 31 2017 2:39 PM

    phred952:

    I would warn everyone any where not to consider buying a used car in the next few years unless you personally know the seller and the history of the car.  Scammers have taken advantage of people with flood cars in the past and will do so again.  BUYER BEWARE.

    Those flood cars are sold in Insurance Company pools, usually temporary set ups in the disaster area itself, when a big event like this takes place...cash only!

    Many/most of them end up in Murray KY. or Southeast MO., Tennessee, and are sold at Auto Auctions in Chicago...those are the preferred auctions because the used car market is slim pickings in the far northern/northeast states due to the amount of snow they get...the salt takes a huge toll on a cars life...and many of those dealers look to Chicago for their used car supply.

    While "any" flood car is bad, salt water flood cars are a disaster....I knew a couple of brothers who would buy salt water cars, and submerge them in a creek on their property in a hole they dug out, for 3-4 days to wash the salt out...then put them through the flood car rejuvenation process, and off to Chicago as quick as possible before the interior started to rot! Most of them use a river or any tributary with a decent current...

    Point of this post is, be careful anywhere, but be particularly wary if you live in the Northern or Northeastern States....90% of them end up there and I know this to be a fact...LOL

     

  • gonfission
    2,248 Posts
    Thu, Aug 31 2017 3:55 PM

    phred952:
     I personally don't know enough about them and can only pass along what was reported on our local news stations.

    I would not lump him in with the rest of the evangelic types, as Tammy & Jim Baker. Not even close. I was asked to review him 2 years ago by a friend, trying to find his way back.

    I can actually watch some of his stuff with an open mind, a couple times a year. When I am barely awake. ;-)

    Dan, if you read about my brake replacement, the other day. When I pulled out the spare tire, after a three hour battle of wills, I immediately thought it was a "SANDY" vehicle, the way the spare rim was rotted. The rest of the undercarriage is not rusted at all. Makes no sense. The road salt must have just kept collecting on top of it.

    How the tire is still inflated, is a mystery to me.

    My buddy has an auction license. He does exactly what you said. 

    He remains my buddy, as I don't buy from him. :-))

  • Kirbo40
    180 Posts
    Thu, Aug 31 2017 11:36 PM

    I live in Pasadena on the SE side of Houston. Been on long change for the last week. I work for a petro company. Go back to work tomorrow on nights. My house and cars and bikes are ok. Across my street the house of a friend got about 10 inches of water in it. A couple of my coworkers live in Alvin and lost everything. We got about 42" of rain mostly in 2 days here.

    I was surprised how fast the response was from official & non-official 1st responders. Seems like Sun. rescues were already happening. This was after 15" of rain fell Sat. night from about 22:00 to 04:00. One of my favorite clips on the news was Mon. morning - an elderly couple is on their porch with about 5 feet of water in the yard and a boat pulls up and asks if they are OK. They reply that they have called 911. The boat guy says "911 won't help you. I'm here to help." He was one of the first of the Cajun Navy. They were awesome. Far as I know nobody called La. folks to help. They saw we needed them so they hitched up their boats on their lifted trucks and came and went to work. They along with the Coast guard and Police and Fire depts. have pulled 1000's from houses and cars. We will get through this, but for some it's gonna be a long time before they have "normal" again.

    Kirby Keele

  • phred952
    2,714 Posts
    Fri, Sep 1 2017 9:33 AM

    +1 Kirby.  The Cajun Navy made a huge difference in the outcome. As did "ordinary" Texans doing what was needed.  The Houston 911 system was overwhelmed with calls and nearly crashed.  Posting to social media made the difference.  I'm glad you are OK.  Be safe when you return to work.  GOD BLESS TEXAS, AND TEXANS.

    Jeff

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