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This old wind offset chart I figured out when I first started playing

Sun, Jun 24 2018 7:26 PM (9 replies)
  • MulliganWilly
    138 Posts
    Sat, Jun 23 2018 6:05 PM

    Was looking stuff up on the internet about something from a long time ago. Noticed this old wind movement chart I had figured out back then.

    This was before they rigged the game and clicking excellent now may go wonky. Clicking excellent now may also negate any forward view triangle movements. If you move the triangle and click excellent, it behaves as if it was on the flag. So your compensation doesn't work.

    They didn't have many courses at the time. I got these calculations by doing a practice round on Bethpage back 9, that's very flat. Would keep restarting until the wind was directly behind, or in front. Set a practice round to low, medum, high winds.

    Then you watch how far it would go, depending on whatever wind. Now you've got some numbers of what's going on. Then you can calculate how it might be for whatever other wind speed and distance. At the time it seemed to be pretty accurate.

    What I'd do is click the spacebar for forward view. Move the triangle directly away or towards you, to see how far a distance looks like, Then you move it whichever way that much, to compensate for the wind. Was able to get a lot closer to the pin. But in recent years I just eyeball it and didn't need the chart anymore. 

     

    wind offset chart

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    260yd, 5mph wind = 7.59yd
    250yd, 5mph wind = 7.29yd
    240yd, 5mph wind = 7yd
    230yd, 5mph wind = 6.71yd
    220yd, 5mph wind = 6.42yd
    210yd, 5mph wind = 6.13yd
    200yd, 5mph wind = 5.83yd
    190yd, 5mph wind = 5.54yd
    180yd, 5mph wind = 5.25yd
    170yd, 5mph wind = 4.96yd
    160yd, 5mph wind = 4.67yd
    150yd, 5mph wind = 4.38yd
    140yd, 5mph wind = 4.08yd
    130yd, 5mph wind = 3.79yd
    120yd, 5mph wind = 3.50yd
    110yd, 5mph wind = 3.21yd
    100yd, 5mph wind = 2.92yd
    90yd, 5mph wind = 2.63yd
    80yd, 5mph wind = 2.33yd
    70yd, 5mph wind = 2.04yd
    60yd, 5mph wind = 1.75yd
    50yd, 5mph wind = 1.46yd
    40yd, 5mph wind = 1.17yd
    30yd, 5mph wind = 0.88yd
    20yd, 5mph wind = 0.58yd
    10yd, 5mph wind = 0.29yd

    . . . . . . . . . . . .

    260yd, 7mph wind = 10.62yd
    270yd, 7mph wind = 10.2yd
    240yd, 7mph wind = 9.8yd
    230yd, 7mph wind = 9.39yd
    220yd, 7mph wind = 8.98yd
    210yd, 7mph wind = 8.58yd
    200yd, 7mph wind = 8.16yd
    190yd, 7mph wind = 7.75yd
    180yd, 7mph wind = 7.35yd
    170yd, 7mph wind = 6.94yd
    160yd, 7mph wind = 6.53yd
    170yd, 7mph wind = 6.13yd
    140yd, 7mph wind = 5.71yd
    130yd, 7mph wind = 5.30yd
    120yd, 7mph wind = 4.9yd
    110yd, 7mph wind = 4.49yd
    100yd, 7mph wind = 4.08yd
    90yd, 7mph wind = 3.68yd
    80yd, 7mph wind = 3.26yd
    70yd, 7mph wind = 2.85yd
    60yd, 7mph wind = 2.4yd
    70yd, 7mph wind = 2.04yd
    40yd, 7mph wind = 1.63yd
    30yd, 7mph wind = 1.23yd
    20yd, 7mph wind = 0.81yd
    10yd, 7mph wind = 0.40yd

    . . . . . . . . . . . .

    260yd, 10mph wind = 15.17yd
    250yd, 10mph wind = 14.59yd
    240yd, 10mph wind = 14yd
    230yd, 10mph wind = 13.42yd
    220yd, 10mph wind = 12.84yd
    210yd, 10mph wind = 12.25yd
    200yd, 10mph wind = 11.67yd
    190yd, 10mph wind = 11.09yd
    180yd, 10mph wind = 10.5yd
    170yd, 10mph wind = 9.92yd
    160yd, 10mph wind = 9.34yd
    150yd, 10mph wind = 8.75yd
    140yd, 10mph wind = 8.17yd
    130yd, 10mph wind = 7.56yd
    120yd, 10mph wind = 7yd
    110yd, 10mph wind = 6.42yd
    100yd, 10mph wind = 5.83yd
    90yd, 10mph wind = 5.25yd
    80yd, 10mph wind = 4.67yd
    70yd, 10mph wind = 4.08yd
    60yd, 10mph wind = 3.50yd
    50yd, 10mph wind = 2.92yd
    40yd, 10mph wind = 2.33yd
    30yd, 10mph wind = 1.75yd
    20yd, 10mph wind = 1.17yd
    10yd, 10mph wind = 0.58yd

    . . . . . . . . . . . .

    260yd, 12mph wind = 18.2yd
    250yd, 12mph wind = 17.5yd
    240yd, 12mph wind = 16.8yd
    230yd, 12mph wind = 16.1yd
    220yd, 12mph wind = 15.4yd
    210yd, 12mph wind = 14.7yd
    200yd, 12mph wind = 14yd
    190yd, 12mph wind = 13.3yd
    180yd, 12mph wind = 12.6yd
    170yd, 12mph wind = 11.9yd
    160yd, 12mph wind = 11.2yd
    150yd, 12mph wind = 10.5yd
    140yd, 12mph wind = 9.8yd
    130yd, 12mph wind = 9.07yd
    120yd, 12mph wind = 8.4yd
    110yd, 12mph wind = 7.7yd
    100yd, 12mph wind = 7yd
    90yd, 12mph wind = 6.3yd
    80yd, 12mph wind = 5.6yd
    70yd, 12mph wind = 4.89yd
    60yd, 12mph wind = 4.2yd
    50yd, 12mph wind = 3.5yd
    40yd, 12mph wind = 2.79yd
    30yd, 12mph wind = 2.1yd
    20yd, 12mph wind = 1.4yd
    10yd, 12mph wind = 0.69yd

    . . . . . . . . . . . .

    260yd, 15mph wind = 22.77yd
    250yd, 15mph wind = 21.87yd
    240yd, 15mph wind = 21yd
    230yd, 15mph wind = 20.13yd
    220yd, 15mph wind = 19.26yd
    210yd, 15mph wind = 18.39yd
    200yd, 15mph wind = 17.49yd
    190yd, 15mph wind = 16.62yd
    180yd, 15mph wind = 15.75yd
    170yd, 15mph wind = 14.88yd
    160yd, 15mph wind = 14.01yd
    150yd, 15mph wind = 13.14yd
    140yd, 15mph wind = 12.24yd
    130yd, 15mph wind = 11.37yd
    120yd, 15mph wind = 10.5yd
    110yd, 15mph wind = 9.63yd
    100yd, 15mph wind = 8.76yd
    90yd, 15mph wind = 7.89yd
    80yd, 15mph wind = 6.99yd
    70yd, 15mph wind = 6.12yd
    60yd, 15mph wind = 5.25yd
    50yd, 15mph wind = 4.38yd
    40yd, 15mph wind = 3.51yd
    30yd, 15mph wind = 2.64yd
    20yd, 15mph wind = 1.74yd
    10yd, 15mph wind = 0.87yd

    . . . . . . . . . . . .

    260yd, 17mph wind = 25.78yd
    250yd, 17mph wind = 24.8yd
    240yd, 17mph wind = 23.8yd
    230yd, 17mph wind = 22.81yd
    220yd, 17mph wind = 21.82yd
    210yd, 17mph wind = 20.82yd
    200yd, 17mph wind = 19.83yd
    190yd, 17mph wind = 18.85yd
    180yd, 17mph wind = 17.85yd
    170yd, 17mph wind = 16.86yd
    160yd, 17mph wind = 15.87yd
    150yd, 17mph wind = 14.87yd
    140yd, 17mph wind = 13.88yd
    130yd, 17mph wind = 12.85yd
    120yd, 17mph wind = 11.9yd
    110yd, 17mph wind = 10.91yd
    100yd, 17mph wind = 9.91yd
    90yd, 17mph wind = 8.92yd
    80yd, 17mph wind = 7.93yd
    70yd, 17mph wind = 6.93yd
    60yd, 17mph wind = 5.95yd
    50yd, 17mph wind = 4.96yd
    40yd, 17mph wind = 3.96yd
    30yd, 17mph wind = 2.97yd
    20yd, 17mph wind = 1.98yd
    10yd, 17mph wind = 0.98yd

    . . . . . . . . . . . .

    260yd, 20mph wind = 30.34yd
    250yd, 20mph wind = 29.18yd
    240yd, 20mph wind = 28yd
    230yd, 20mph wind = 26.84yd
    220yd, 20mph wind = 25.68yd
    210yd, 20mph wind = 24.5yd
    200yd, 20mph wind = 23.34yd
    190yd, 20mph wind = 22.18yd
    180yd, 20mph wind = 21yd
    170yd, 20mph wind = 19.84yd
    160yd, 20mph wind = 18.68yd
    150yd, 20mph wind = 17.5yd
    140yd, 20mph wind = 16.34yd
    130yd, 20mph wind = 15.12yd
    120yd, 20mph wind = 14yd
    110yd, 20mph wind = 12.84yd
    100yd, 20mph wind = 11.66yd
    90yd, 20mph wind = 10.5yd
    80yd, 20mph wind = 9.34yd
    70yd, 20mph wind = 8.16yd
    60yd, 20mph wind = 7yd
    50yd, 20mph wind = 5.84yd
    40yd, 20mph wind = 4.66yd
    30yd, 20mph wind = 3.5yd
    20yd, 20mph wind = 2.34yd
    10yd, 20mph wind = 1.16yd

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  • alcaucin
    9,041 Posts
    Sun, Jun 24 2018 3:46 PM

    Just me then eh ??  ;))

    I'll bite MW....

    As a L94, 8 yr member, with an ave of 66 @ Master tier,

    Your 'Windage' will not be adopted by many I feel..

    + being hard to decipher what you mean TBH

    Most are way out...a few ( and far between ) are spot on ( mostly in the higher wind bracket )

    Blind squirrels n all that... ;-)

    ;/

  • Robert1893
    7,712 Posts
    Sun, Jun 24 2018 4:04 PM

    @MulliganWilly

    For each one of those wind categories, aren't you just basically multiplying the yardage by a constant? Wouldn't it be simpler just to provide the multiplier?

    And for each, are you assuming it's always a headwind coming straight at the person? 

     

  • MulliganWilly
    138 Posts
    Sun, Jun 24 2018 4:43 PM

    Robert1893:

    @MulliganWilly

    For each one of those wind categories, aren't you just basically multiplying the yardage by a constant? Wouldn't it be simpler just to provide the multiplier?

    And for each, are you assuming it's always a headwind coming straight at the person? 

     

     

    If it's a side-wind, the ball's up in the air the same amount of time as if it was from straight ahead. It'll move the same distance. That's when you use the forward view triangle, move that straight ahead or behind in a straight line to determine what that yardage looks like, then compensate it towards the wind direction. It works on side winds. What's tricky is the different height and then green speed roll. You have to figure out that adjustment for yourself. 

     

  • opyeuclid
    6,709 Posts
    Sun, Jun 24 2018 5:21 PM

    alcaucin:
    Your 'Windage' will not be adopted by many I feel..

    Dear Andy .. I beg to differ here Sir .  , His clubs are starters and his chart a good place fore them new to the game . 

    Now then can we meet up some day , My course for a fast 9 ?

    OPY 

  • alcaucin
    9,041 Posts
    Sun, Jun 24 2018 5:24 PM

    Deleted....makes no sense now Ic took the 'meat' out.. .

    A pity too....I'd've looked back on my typage as a measured response, one worth adopting in the future !!  

    ;)))

  • alcaucin
    9,041 Posts
    Sun, Jun 24 2018 5:25 PM

    opyeuclid:

    Now then can we meet up some day , My course for a fast 9 ?

    OPY 

    Ready now u reformed fool ;))

    ** Differ"  all you like mate....the ball with starter clubs moves significantly less with side winds due to the med loft.

    Ergo..his charts are more OFF in that scenario !!!  lol

     

     

  • WGTicon
    12,511 Posts
    Sun, Jun 24 2018 5:38 PM

    Hey folks,

    Please keep it civil or i'll have to get my trusty soap out.

    -WGTicon

  • alcaucin
    9,041 Posts
    Sun, Jun 24 2018 6:01 PM

    Pleasure as always Ope...good to hit with the 'old crew'

    You being REALLY old.....;-)

    Sweet last 20+ footer BTW.

  • MulliganWilly
    138 Posts
    Sun, Jun 24 2018 7:26 PM

    WGTicon:

    Hey folks,

    Please keep it civil or i'll have to get my trusty soap out.

    -WGTicon

    Oh, it's not a rudderless ship around here? You the captain going down with the ship? LOL. 

    Hey buddy why don't you do something about those pile of errors around here. For starters.. go check course awards. Scroll to the bottom.. no little images on those last two.. then it starts 2 higher up was the images for the last 2. And everything else all the way up is off by 2. 

    Go to set up a multiplayer round, practice, and choose uneven lies.. nobody shows up. Then go to join a normal even lies multiplayer round, nobody around. Some kind of "snafu" because I tried getting a practice uneven lies round going. Only way to fix that is close the window. Restart, then look for a multiplayer round, one shows up in an instant. Try again though trying to get an uneven lies practice round going, same thing.. nobody shows up. 

    Then you get stupid things like set up a practice round with even lies. Has a field where it says "hole locations" but nothing you can change in there. Only says "---" ad you click the scroll arrow. Get it the hell out of there if you can't select anything.

    Same thing for "reputation", only says "any". Well why the hell is it there if I can't choose anything. Make it so you can have only green check mark guys, show up, if you want. Or yellow check mark. Give it the option to choose green and yellow but no orange.

    Then last night I go to look for a multiplayer round. Was this lame paid course. Noticed these Top Golf chumps removed that field where you can look for rounds that aren't paid. Now you can't. So I kept looking for a round and was only this chump with his paid round.

    Scumbags these new Top Golf guys. You knew this place was going downhill this year when first year since I been here since 2009, no new USGA course like every other previous year. These guys are like scumbag landlords you rent from who don't fix up the place. lol. 

    What else is fishy. You go to look for a multiplayer round.. it's usually some front 9. Back 9 is forbidden. I betcha that's cause this is what goes on when they choose "random". It'll pick a front 9. And then way too much St Andrews front 9. Get some kind of algorithm so there's variety if they choose random. 

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