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Tue, Jun 18 2019 8:47 PM (1,489 replies)
  • DodgyPutter
    4,690 Posts
    Fri, May 3 2019 6:13 AM

    WaLk0fLiFe:
    You realize us willing to do this stops shot advice and cheating? We can just go back to never streaming anything and you would never know who is talking to who or who is sharing screens where. People can be sharing screens  at any time without you or anyone else knowing. This is an impossible rule to police unlesss someone does it on a stream. Giving opponent the choice is impossible if someone was going to shar screens and tell a player what to hit they would not tell the opponent and he would be none the wiser.

    Everything you say is true, except maybe the first question. I don't realise that as I'm not as up on technology as I should be, but I suspect there are ways that information could still be passed without the watchers knowing.

    There were two suggestions, I take it you've not saying there's anything wrong with the one that since some know this is allowed then all teams should.  Once that's happened it's not about "us" it's about everyone. I'm not saying anyone did anything just that I would wonder if I was playing someone (anyone, not directed anywhere in particular) that was screen sharing with a better player. Saying that it's not only about what to hit etc, I've watched friends use the wrong putting scale, move the wrong way for the wind etc, if I could have said something I doubt if I could have stopped myself.

    The second, that the opponent should have the choice: Firstly informing them I'd think is the minimum that should happen. 

    Thje whole impossible to police arguement doesn't seem relevant to me.  Lots of things are impossible to police effectively it doesn't mean they should be allowed or legal. Is it even possible to screenshare and take a persons shot? That's a genuine question, I don't know.  If it is then a few times in a round could make all the difference. 

    If it was against the rules; I'm playing someone and they ask if I want this and I say no, if they do as you describe above then they are cheating.  If they can live with that then so can I.  As you say they probably wont get caught but at least it's only probably.  Two or more people already know, a few more gradually will, then a falling out and someone will tell. It wont make any difference to the result by then but it may to a reputation or two.

    If someone did ask me if they could do this then I'd ask who with and if the person they were sharing with was.  If I thought they were of similar or lesser ability I'd probably go along with it, until someone tells me why I shouldn't.   For my next game in this I'd let my opponent screenshare with anyone he wants to if he asked.

    If it was against the rules I don't think as many as you seem to suggest would do it.

    I'm not trying to have a go at anyone in particular and I realise I'm in a very small minority so screensharing will be done with or without the opponents permission.  It's just what I think and I don't see why that's painted as negative and I should be banned etc.   What I don't understand is If it is just me that would, sometimes, say no would it matter if the choice was the opponents?

     

  • DodgyPutter
    4,690 Posts
    Fri, May 3 2019 6:24 AM

    PGoldfinch:
    well said  jo  ditto ranger.it seems like the cry baby from last year still has not grownup  im sick of his tear  ban him from posting on here...i know this is not the place to post this  but im sick of little crying ***. i have been with 3 gr8 cc,s  and i think paragon is the tops. therare no cheaters in any of those 3 cc,s.so go cry in a mirror no one cares you tit

    Thanks :-)

  • PAULFINN52
    3,174 Posts
    Fri, May 3 2019 7:09 AM

    DodgyPutter:

    Since screensharing and discord was allowed again tonight, albeit with the promise of mic's off or whatever, it seems it has been decided that it is within the rules. In that case I'd like to make a couple of suggestions.

    The opponent should always be given the choice, not that I'm suggesting they weren't tonight.

    All captains should be told this is allowed.

    Although I think this was a bad decision that doesn't make this a negavitve post, it's just a couple of suggestions with fairness in mind.

    hey Al

    why dont come to me with suggestions mate,my door is always open instead of posting on the forum,

    finny

     

  • Kenher01
    1,151 Posts
    Fri, May 3 2019 7:17 AM

    DodgyPutter:

    Since screensharing and discord was allowed again tonight, albeit with the promise of mic's off or whatever, it seems it has been decided that it is within the rules. In that case I'd like to make a couple of suggestions.

    The opponent should always be given the choice, not that I'm suggesting they weren't tonight.

    All captains should be told this is allowed.

    Although I think this was a bad decision that doesn't make this a negavitve post, it's just a couple of suggestions with fairness in mind.

    Hi,

        It may have passed you by but there was a match Involving SEL & OUTKASTS in the Group stages where one of the players had Intended to Stream but at the last minute was unable to do so.

    A lot of us were looking forward to the match & one of his Teammates got him to share screen's with him on Skype & then his friend Streamed the match for him, If anything It was to his detriment as his meter was choppy but he didn't want to let people down who wanted to see It

    Ken

  • bubbsboy
    6,879 Posts
    Fri, May 3 2019 7:50 AM

    Sharing good practice regarding what shot to take is wrong, end of.

    Policing it is impossible, folk like watching twitch games, banter is good and it just seems more sociable.

    I know its difficult, i had to post a reminder on our forum before to remind folk  to be careful. It wasnt anything more than a general discussion "ooo perfect 3 iron range" or the like, not even meant as a prompt but others possibly could think it was. 

    But hey ive been close to doing it myself (if not too busy basically having fun with stupid jokes and clarting about that is). Not once typing "you need to be wider here" or "thats 90% PW" etc etc etc. Thats where folk should be careful and not do it.

    Just watch and banter and praise both oppos from whatever club playing, thats all. 

    Its a game, a fun one at times, so please dont promt as you only cheating yourselves.

     

     

  • Kenher01
    1,151 Posts
    Fri, May 3 2019 8:42 AM

    Cup Playoff's, Quarter Finals, Chambers Bay

    PARAGON 1 v Trans Bandits

    #108 climatic (Brenden) v #71 tiptopTOPPIN (Sean)

    Brenden eagled the 4th extra hole for the win for PARAGON

    Brenden Is moderated so here are his words below

    "He was on fire early and was 2 up at the turn . I pitched in for eagle on 18, then was lucky enough to pinch a win on 4th extra hole".

    "He was a top fella & I reckon he pitched in 3 times, He played damn well!"

  • 19cltc67
    3,296 Posts
    Fri, May 3 2019 3:29 PM

    plate playoff - bravehearts v east coast cc 2

    445 - metsjik  v  golgac - 234

    bravehearts won the match

     

    another epic battle, 4th extra hole before metsjik won the match

    thats us bk in the game :) pressure on....

    bill

     

  • ujjbnjk
    2,128 Posts
    Fri, May 3 2019 3:55 PM

    Let's just respect Paulfinn and his friends that run this great tournament... And take the drama outside this forum can we? We are all adults... Act after that before your next rants. Peace out :) 

  • amateur4sure
    2,235 Posts
    Fri, May 3 2019 4:25 PM

    ujjbnjk:

    Let's just respect Paulfinn and his friends that run this great tournament... And take the drama outside this forum can we? We are all adults... Act after that before your next rants. Peace out :) 

    Well said Pete, Lets keep it real folks, The amount of work and time that goes into this. Any issues Anybody has please take it up with your CC Team Captain.

    Keep this going as the Fun Tourney Finny created, Please do not throw accusations or innuedos into this thread. Any issues speak to your Captain, They in turn will speak to the Finny, Dotty or Nico and it will be sorted from there, Lets keep this thread for the WC fun..

    Please!

  • tubbytubb
    121 Posts
    Fri, May 3 2019 5:03 PM

    Plate playoff

    Tony40mo of the trans Pirates defeats Tubbytubb of the Fanitic Fighters 3 up, all on the back nine.  Great Game though.  We were team mates once upon a time in the Eagles.  He kicked my *** on the back nine.  Erie Abu.  Good match my old friend.

    Tubby

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