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• TheCarGuy 17 Posts

  Thu, May 30 2019 8:16 AM

  After hitting a 105 yard wedge 130 yards with a backspin into the ocean at Pebble Beach, I decided to try a little experiment. Took the same exact shot again. This time I hit it 93 yards, short of the pin. Same angle of approach, same shot power. 

  I wanted to throw my computer out of the window. This is the type of *** that makes me want to stop playing WGT. 

• Robert1893 7,719 Posts

  Thu, May 30 2019 8:38 AM

  TheCarGuy:

  After hitting a 105 yard wedge 130 yards with a backspin into the ocean at Pebble Beach, I decided to try a little experiment. Took the same exact shot again. This time I hit it 93 yards, short of the pin. Same angle of approach, same shot power. 

  I wanted to throw my computer out of the window. This is the type of *** that makes me want to stop playing WGT. 

  I had a similar thing happen to me on Wolf Creek yesterday. On the short par 3 (~100 yards), my 56-degree wedge went about 120 yards. I was very frustrated. 
  
  But I was frustrated with myself because I concluded I hadn't been paying close enough attention and had inadvertently chosen my PW, which is rated at 120 yards, rather than my 56-degree wedge.
  
  Are you absolutely certain something similar didn't happen to you and that the first shot has nothing to dow with WGT physics? 

• TheCarGuy 17 Posts

  Thu, May 30 2019 9:23 AM

  I play real golf almost every day. I usually think like I would think if I was playing real golf. For example, After I posted this, I played Pebble Beach again. I had a downhill 180 yard shot into a 28-30 MPH wind. So, you would think with it being 7 yards downhill you'd play it at around 190, right? So I hit a 200 yard club at 190 strength into the wind. I overshoot the green by 25 yards. Makes absolutely no sense. 

  I ALWAYS watch my clubs, wind, and elevation. It seems the more money I spend on this game, the worse I get. 

  And don't get me started on putting. Downhill 12 ft putt at a 10 inch decline. I hit the putt like it is a 5 yard putt. It hits the cup and blows past the hole 15 feet. So now I have a 15 ft putt with a 4 inch incline and I hit the putt like it's an 18 ft putt and it blows by the hole 11 ft. And, yes, I checked the meter. 

  *** like this is why I am starting to hate this game.

• Robert1893 7,719 Posts

  Thu, May 30 2019 10:10 AM

  Well, I always watch my clubs as well. But I still make mistakes. On both the PC and the mobile platform, it's easy to inadvertently select the wrong club.
  
  By the way, I think you must have a typo in your description of those putts. On the first putt, do you mean you hit it like a 5 toot putt? 
  
  Even then, for a 12-foot putt with 10-inch decline, I'd hardly hit it, unless it's on the slowest of greens. With that much decline, it's going to be tough to stop. 

• Infyniti 27 Posts

  Thu, May 30 2019 10:37 AM

  TheCarGuy:

  So I hit a 200 yard club at 190 strength into the wind. I overshoot the green by 25 yards. Makes absolutely no sense. 

  You didn't say what spin you used. I'm guessing flat.

  Usually when people have a hard time with distances vs listed club yardage it's because they haven't learned what spin does. And what spin is necessary for their club's listed yardage to be hit. This varies between club sets and trajectorys. 

  Example My 3iron is listed at 225. Assuming a neutral wind and flat surface and no apparel bonuses  etc etc. My ball will go 220 if i use Full back spin. Will go 240 if i use neutral or flat spin. So by tweaking the spin i can make it go anywhere from 220-240 at 100% power.

   

  TheCarGuy:

  Downhill 12 ft putt at a 10 inch decline. I hit the putt like it is a 5 yard putt.

  You didn't give the green speed. This matters. Plus a 5 yard putt means 15 feet. which is long no matter what green speed it was.

  Here are the powers on the possible green speeds you played.

  7.4- 5.4 feet

  7.9-  4.2 feet

  9.0-  3 feet

  10.0 1.8 feet

  12.0  This is what I (we)  call a negative putt. meaning that you still have to hit it about 2 feet of power to maintain any line at all but if it doesn't hit the hole it's going to roll past it.

  13.0 This is Tour legend and higher speed but it is also in the green speed in the latest clash rounds. 

  Also if have a cross break and don't read enough break it will add distance to the rollout. the faster the greens the greater this effect. Also if a wind is blowing in the direction of the break it can magnify this effect.

  As far as the comebacker putt. If it was 12 speed green you'd need about 16 feet of power and if 13 you'd need about 15.5 power. If you didn't mess up the meter and you say you didn't then it would have to be not reading enough break on a crossbreaking putt. 

  To be honest it appears as if you just haven't learned the nuances of the game yet.

   

   

• DonCaron 5,502 Posts

  Thu, May 30 2019 10:38 AM

  I have had a problem lately of clubs changing as I shoot. I am not touching the wheel on my mouse either. One time I saw it change while I was putting. I started changing to a wedge and then to the club I want and has been working better. Its still a pain though

• borntobesting 9,701 Posts

  Thu, May 30 2019 11:00 AM

  lets face it you don't play enough to even know how to play this game. 227 ranked rounds in almost 10 years is nothing.. In just about the same amount of time I have played over 10000 ranked rounds and I still make mistakes. You just need to learn how to play the game. 

   

  Just like that putt you talked about., You said you hit it like a 5 yard putt. 5 yards is 15 feet So you hit a putt that needed to be hit like a 6 in putt like a 15 foot putt and then wonder why it blew by. The second putt should have been hit a with 14 foot power or so, Both instances just show you need to learn how to play the game. 

• lonniescott711 4,206 Posts

  Thu, May 30 2019 11:44 AM

  TheCarGuy:

  It seems the more money I spend on this game, the worse I get. 

  Not sure as to why you`re spending money but its not going to make you play better . Looking at your activity you have purchased several different types of balls . Unless you were gifting them to others it makes no sense . Pick a ball and stick with it and learn how to play the game .If you were trying different balls when playing then you will get different results .

  Also you have to put your time in . You have a 10 year old account but you`re only on L63 with 227 ranked rounds played . So you have no reason to complain because you really dont know whats going on in the game . Just like you play real golf every day , you have to play this game just as much . If you want to get better then put your time in and practice practice and then more practice .

  There is more to this game than just clicking a mouse . Sometimes you may get bad results due to filtering .After an update you may get some of everything until the game settles back down . We all have WTF moments it just goes with the game .

  Oh and just because the meter shows wind doesnt mean that its blowing . It may be blowing on the tee but not on the green .  The wind meter is very deceptive and will cause you to over or under hit your shots . Its always a guessing game when playing with the wind .

  When putting you will get false reads on the greens . It happens all of the time and playing real golf as much as you do , you should know this . Every read on the green isnt true and you see the pros miss putts to . So thats just the way it is . Put your time in and learn how to play the game . Once you do then you will see and get better results and also enjoy playing the game .

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Thu, May 30 2019 12:15 PM

  Robert1893:

  I had a similar thing happen to me on Wolf Creek yesterday. On the short par 3 (~100 yards), my 56-degree wedge went about 120 yards. I was very frustrated. 
  
  But I was frustrated with myself because I concluded I hadn't been paying close enough attention and had inadvertently chosen my PW, which is rated at 120 yards, rather than my 56-degree wedge.

  A little irony for ya--that hole is a PW shot, you just have to punch it. So is PB7, which I suspect is where the OP got wet. Both holes are PW punches and play the same. ;-)

• Robert1893 7,719 Posts

  Thu, May 30 2019 12:21 PM

  @YJ

  Thanks for the tip! I appreciate it.