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Mon, Jul 16 2012 5:50 AM (76 replies)
  • MickAnderson
    105 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 11:37 AM

    Tesla and Rixstertrader, do you guys realize how ridiculous it sounds to be talking about a computer game as a matter of human rights?  How comfortable and spoiled are we that that's the case?  It's crazy.  It's a freaking video game!!!!  

    As for quitting, it's pretty simple, I think. 

    Stroke play - Not a big deal if people quit as long as they do so through the menu bar so as not to freeze the game for the other players.  At worst it's a little rude but hardly anything to go bananas over.

    A/S, Skins and Matchplay - Quitting ruins the game for everyone else, so don't do it unless you absolutely have to.  If you're in a situation where you might get called away or aren't sure you'll be able to finish, have some common courtesy and don't join these games.  Play a stroke game instead, where your early departure doesn't prevent others from finishing their game.

    Pretty simple no?

     

  • rixtertrader
    28 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 11:48 AM

    Yes, it is just a game.

    But we play this game because we want to relax and have fun.

    When someone quits a multiplayer game, it ruins the whole experience.

    The time spent up to that point has basically been wasted.

    If I wanted to play a game by myself, I would (and do at times).

    But other times, it's more fun to play multiplayer.

    As for it being STROKE PLAY, that does matter as much as the other types of games you mentioned. I play only STROKE PLAY, and I can tell you that it grates on you to play one game after another where it is not completed.

    PS: When you depart from a STROKE game, btw, you affect others in other ways also. They do not get the credit for multiplayer in points when someone quits.

    That's simple.

  • TesLa33
    109 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 2:41 PM

    rixtertrader:
    This I would expect from a quitter. You (TesLa33) quit on me on the last hole of a game just because they thought it would mess up your precious average

     

    I sure did. I politely explained to you that I wasn't going to finish before i disconnected on the last putt. I said gg and then I made a choice that I did not want to finish/post that round. It's that simple. That didn't stop you from harassing me on my wall though did it?

    Did you also harass the other guy who dumped out on hole 4 because he was +3?

    You're way too overzealous about this.

     

    MickAnderson:
    Pretty simple no?

    YES!

  • rixtertrader
    28 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 3:10 PM

    I will make a comment on any player who starts but does not finish a game.

    Everyone should know that the person is a quitter so they can avoid playing with guys like you.

    Think about it man. If everyone knew that before playing YOU that you have a tendency to quit games rather than finish them, do you really think they would go ahead and play you?

    Not a chance.

    So the bottom line is that you're not doing anyone any favors by playing them.

    And by your own admittance, you quit because you don't want to record a score you are not happy with. So you are being a real hypocrite when you say THIS IS ONLY A GAME.

    If you really felt it was only a game, then why do you care if you don't have a great game? If it was just a game to you, you wouldn't care about your occasional bad score at the cost of screwing over others to pad it.

    Make up your mind. Is it just a game, or isn't it?

  • TesLa33
    109 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 3:31 PM

    rixtertrader:
    Make up your mind. Is it just a game, or isn't it?

    I can tell you grew up in a dysfunctional family as your use of "reverse psychology" in this instance is subliminal (i.e. second nature). You don't even realize you're doing it.

    I don't think it's a big deal. It's just a game. When people quit in games on me i'm just like "oh well".. because it's NOT a big deal.

    I'm not worried about your actions.

    You're worried about mine.

    rixtertrader:
    I will make a comment on any player who starts but does not finish a game.

    If that's what you choose to do then so be it. My constructive criticism to you would be to invest your energy in something more productive and/or positive. Oh and if people ask you not to post on their wall again; don't. That is blatant disrespect and harassment.

    Like I said you're overzealous and obsessive compulsive about this issue..

    THat being said and after this I will say no more; of course it's just a game!

     

     

  • rixtertrader
    28 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 3:58 PM

    Well, since I'm from a dysfunctional family as you say, I'll say the last word (unless you give in and reply anyway).

    You think just because you don't care if others quit on you that its okay for you to quit on others. You have a pretty high opinion about yourself and damn be everyone else.

    Again, I'll repeat since you obviously skipped over this simply logical point:  IF THIS IS JUST A GAME TO YOU, WHY ARE YOU SO CONCERNED ABOUT FINISHING A GAME WITH A POOR SCORE?

    Why do you care if your score is not good?

    Fact: Because it is more than just a game to you. And you obviously want to deceive the game and everyone else by padding your average.

    Funny how that is so important to you. LOL!!!

     

     

     

  • spanky3x
    6 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 4:21 PM

     

    Well, since I'm from a dysfunctional family as you say, I'll say the last word (unless you give in and reply anyway).

    You think just because you don't care if others quit on you that its okay for you to quit on others. You have a pretty high opinion about yourself and damn be everyone else.

    Again, I'll repeat since you obviously skipped over this simply logical point:  IF THIS IS JUST A GAME TO YOU, WHY ARE YOU SO CONCERNED ABOUT FINISHING A GAME WITH A POOR SCORE?

    Why do you care if your score is not good?

    Fact: Because it is more than just a game to you. And you obviously want to deceive the game and everyone else by padding your average.

    Funny how that is so important to you. LOL!!!

     

     

     

     

     

    Well, since I'm from a dysfunctional family as you say, I'll say the last word (unless you give in and reply anyway).

    You think just because you don't care if others quit on you that its okay for you to quit on others. You have a pretty high opinion about yourself and damn be everyone else.

    Again, I'll repeat since you obviously skipped over this simply logical point:  IF THIS IS JUST A GAME TO YOU, WHY ARE YOU SO CONCERNED ABOUT FINISHING A GAME WITH A POOR SCORE?

    Why do you care if your score is not good?

    Fact: Because it is more than just a game to you. And you obviously want to deceive the game and everyone else by padding your average.

    Funny how that is so important to you. LOL!!!

     

     

     

     

    The bottom line in quitting to pad your avg. is this: when you play someone with about the same avg. and they blow you outta the water,  that is when you'll realize you only cheated yourself and will UNDOUBTEDLY QUIT ON HIM after you realize that your NOT as good as them. Can you imagine how bad these guys sandbag their handicap at they're own country club? They probably have a 16 handicap and then go out and shoot 67!!!

  • godelescher
    636 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 7:06 PM

    rixtertrader:
    If someone disconnects... they [sic] should simply be required to finish the game... before they can play a new game.

    That's fine, but you're only seeing this from your own perspective.

    I don't know how familiar you are with website analytics, but there are a couple of stats that all web developers look at.

    One is Bounce Rate, this is the percentage of people who visit your site and then leave without ever navigating further into the site.

    Another is Repeat Visitors, this is exactly what it sounds like.

    When someone visits wgt for the first time, they are met with a giant "PLAY NOW" button which launches the game client. From there, they fill out the registration form, and a moment later, they are playing their first round of golf.

    Chances are, this fictional neophyte has no idea what he's doing. He doesn't know how to make the club swing, much less how or when to hit the ball. He doesn't know how to aim. He doesn't even know how to change clubs. In a nutshell, he's retarded.

    99% percent of the time, this guy isn't going to finish the first hole, much less his whole round. No one expects him to. No one.

    At the same time, this guy has never left wgt's landing page because the game client opens in a new window.

    Using your plan, what do you think happens when wgt tells this guy that he's got to fumble his ignorant butt through 8 more holes before being allowed to try again?

    That's right, wgt's Bounce Rate sky rockets, the Repeat Visitor metric plummets, and wgt closes up shop pretty soon afterward.

    You see quitting as a sign of immorality and personal failure, but you don't see the basic economic principle that people won't come back if they're not enjoying themselves. Forcing your customers to admit they're not very good at something is not something people generally find enjoyable.

     

  • rixtertrader
    28 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 7:19 PM

    I understand what your saying, and I can't fault the logic.

    However, I'm not talking about HACKS, which is what you are talking about.

    I'm talking about players who are at least TOUR PROS or higher.

    I don't play anyone below TP because I'm trying to minimize the potential for playing a quitter. In fact, I only go to TP level ONLY IF there are not Masters or TM's or higher to play.

    Percentage-wise, the higher the ranking the lower the quitter ratio.

    So with the above, what you're saying does not apply.

    Let the HACKS and AMATEURS quit on each other. But once they get out of that level and move up, it's time to get serious and stop acting like a hack.  And no, it will not cause WGT any business harm whatsoever, since these higher ranked players have already invested into the game by then.

    :-)

     

  • JWBodean
    273 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 10:48 PM

    The people quitting are NOT first timers!  They are Masters on down!  I started 3 games tonight with all Masters & Tour Pros and never got to finish a single one!  The first 2 games froze when they left... the 3rd & last game (both Masters), left on the second hole!  Don't tell me they didn't know how to navigate through a game!!!

    They start out badly and just leave!  What? No birdie yet?  Gone!!!  It's BS!!!

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