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inconsistency in green speed, breaks, and chipping distances

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  • borntobesting
    9,709 Posts
    Wed, Nov 16 2011 9:37 AM

    Azpaz:

    I agree with SoulCatcher,

    the game IS consistent. The only inconsistency is in my judgment and ability to hit the ding.

    Take SC´s advice and upgrade your clubs and you should notice an improvment.

    Good luck! 

    Sounds a lot like me. Some days like today I click everything way too early and to hit every shot way left. But it's not the game it is just me.  

  • dfDurbs
    1,061 Posts
    Mon, Apr 30 2012 2:09 AM

    Paying April 18Hole unlimited play, tourny greens, winds high

    1st hole, 24ft slight up, hit for 20ft, goes 28ft

    2nd Hole, 16ft, 4" up, heavy break (add1.5-2ft extra distance) hit for 16ft, past hole 3ft

    3rd, 2.9ft down 1", min break, hit for 3ft, just trickled in, barely

    4th......who cares

    The game is flawed with the randomness of VEM and coding...what you gonna do? Can't complain, because that doesn't work and I don't know enough about the law in the US to contest the "fit for purpose" argument or "Sale of Goods", plus I suspect because it's been and always will be in Beta, that will be the get out clause for WGT.

    ie: "we told it was faulty, so don't complain" plus, the fact people of certain states in the US are banned from playing in competition which give credits as prizes, lends strong credence that this is just a casino in another guise.

    caveat emptor

     

  • renniw52
    5,385 Posts
    Mon, Apr 30 2012 5:28 AM

    I have to agree 100%. Every shot has to be hit absolutely perfect or it is a crap shoot. I remember when missing the ding every so slightly, your ball was still in the vicinity of where you aimed. Now it can make a 15-20 yrd or more difference. Breaks on greens are not always what they show, green speeds can change from green to green in the same round.

  • LizzieRossetti
    1,545 Posts
    Mon, Apr 30 2012 6:20 AM

    Way too much like real life. What were they thinking?

     

    Lizzie xx

  • Richard4168
    4,309 Posts
    Mon, Apr 30 2012 7:13 AM

    Azpaz:
    The only inconsistency is in my judgment and ability to hit the ding.

    This statement is fact.

    No one can deny the game is tightening-up, but at the same time it's not so bad that players aren't still posting a good number.

     

  • chrisironsbones
    3,524 Posts
    Mon, Apr 30 2012 7:42 AM

    The whole game is inconsistent full stop. 120 yard PW travelling 120 yards with 18 mph tailwind, 60 yard wedge travelling 59 yards in 19 mph headwind.  Its a lottery nowerdays whether your shot will actually turn out how you expect it to. Lets hope WGT have not left this on the shelf to collect dust whilst they are concentrating on other ways to become millionaires by inventing other online games such as baseball (allready there) and others and leave this to rott away unloved

  • cmey45
    11 Posts
    Mon, Apr 30 2012 9:31 AM

    hey guys read  this video game this is a video game make beleve have fun with it

  • MioKontic
    4,654 Posts
    Tue, May 1 2012 4:33 AM

    For those of you who play real golf, do you remember the last time you hit what you thought was a perfectly executed shot, only to find it came up 15yds short.  Have you never watched a pro when they believed they hit it absolutely perfect only for it to be nowhere near the hole, and he/she and the caddy look at each other in bewilderment.  He/she hit it perfectly, it should have been in the hole, or at least no more than 3in away.

    But then we all realise that is why we play golf, or any sport for that matter.  And it is also true in other aspects of everyday life too.  For those who say the game is inconsistent, yes of course it is inconsistent, it's designed that way, it's called deviation, but you already know that.  What you have to do it try to minimise or make the best use of that deviation.  That comes with skill, which many here believe they have, but are far from it.  It's not just about hitting the ding, it's about allowing for the wind, allowing for the break on the greens, allowing for hitting out of rough, out of bunkers, which incidentally are different on different courses... just like in real golf!!!  But most of all, you need the skill of 'local knowledge'.  The dots on the green say one thing, but the putt does something completely different.  Have you never played real golf, hit a putt, and then said "that should have broke" as the ball ran by the hole???  Or say "that shouldn't have done that"... but it did!!!  And did you learn from it next time?  I have been a qualified coach in 2 sports and played many others; one thing I try to teach others is that before you can win you have to learn to lose.  By that I mean you need to understand why you lose so that you can change it next time.  You may not necessarily win next time either, but by taking this approach you will get better each time, and maybe one day... who knows!

    A couple of weeks ago I played a competition.  On the front 9 I scored 23 stableford points having played to 1 over gross (i.e. +1 if playing off scratch for those who don't understand).  On the back 9 I scored a measly 13 points having played those 9 holes to 11 over (+11).  It had gone cold, dark cloud came over, it started raining, my knee started hurting pretty badly, the greens were much slower than the front 9, the yardages were all wrong, etc, etc.  I lost the competition by 1 point.  I moaned at the end, of course I did.  But at the end of the day I simply didn't take into consideration the big changes and so didn't compensate enough for everything.

    Lizzie is totally right, nothing in life is perfect, but rather than constantly complaining about it, we should take a moment to ask ourselves "how can I do that better?".  Of course it's not always our fault and we should complain, but it's not always the other person's fault either.

    Like I said, there are many here who complain about the game, a few of whom I have played with.  And to those I say, you don't know as much as you think you know.  I have tried to teach a few some things, but I could see at the time that it was falling upon deaf ears as they simply continued doing what they always had been and always making the same mistakes.  Priestess, one of WGT's top players, took time to learn everything about this game.  But if you ask her if she knows everything I'm sure the answer would be "no".  There were times, not many admittedly, when we played together when she would ask me what shot I had played.  She didn't ignore it because I wasn't as good as her, but she took that information, stored it and used it next time.  And I'm sure the same to be true of all the top players - none of them will say they know everything.

    Ren - with regards to your putting, having had a game with you once and found huge holes in that part of your game for which I tried to give some advice, I would say that you need to rethink why you are missing 2.5ft putts when hitting them 3.5ft and they are coming up short.  But one thing I am sure of is that's it's not WGT's fault.

    To sum up, by all means bring to WGT's attention if you believe something is wrong, but then work out what you can change to do better in that situation.

  • chrisironsbones
    3,524 Posts
    Tue, May 1 2012 6:44 AM

    Its deffo a strange old game, 18 hole Oakmont ready go i couldn't buy a birdie for all the money in the world on the easy usually birdie-able holes through the front yet the tough holes that i rarely get anything like #9 i couldn't miss, i was even putting 25 foot roller coaster putts.  I think the unpredictability is what keeps us addicted

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