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flop like a legend

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Tue, Oct 18 2011 11:39 PM

  bittydog:

  This is just my 2 cents worth

   

  No  change for you.

  s

  I'll listen to Tess...something tells me she ha it down.:) 

• swdeva 238 Posts

  Tue, Oct 18 2011 11:50 PM

  Hows this for a flop, cleveland W64 full backspin. http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=e2b78228-6b31-4734-ab9c-9f80009a0a41

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Wed, Oct 19 2011 12:07 AM

  swdeva:

  Hows this for a flop, cleveland W64 full backspin. http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=e2b78228-6b31-4734-ab9c-9f80009a0a41

  Vns swdeva.

• swdeva 238 Posts

  Wed, Oct 19 2011 12:46 AM

  Thanks Mantis0014

• gr8flbob 592 Posts

  Wed, Oct 19 2011 12:52 AM

  I play the flops like bittydog (more or less, lol). With the Cleveland wedges which have 20, 29 and 38 yd 100% flop ranges, at max range I aim left 3, 4, or 5 grid squares respectively. Back off on the aim offset proportionally at lesser ranges. 

  Where the flops really help are shorter bunker shots. For BP 15-20 lies dial in the actual yardage, but for CCC 30-40 lies you'll need ~180% of actual ydg (eg, 10 yds to pin, you'll need a 18 yd flop.

  As mentioned previously, I don't like the 'aim straight & hit early on the first mark' method because now you have to re-calibrate all your distances. Besides, why break the routine of doing the best you can to hit the ding? 

• bittydog 623 Posts

  Wed, Oct 19 2011 5:28 AM

  swdeva:

  Hows this for a flop, cleveland W64 full backspin. http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=e2b78228-6b31-4734-ab9c-9f80009a0a41

  awesome shot!!

   

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Wed, Oct 19 2011 5:37 AM

  PRIESTESS:

  100 percent correct but it will take a lot of distance off the shot so you have to hit extra,and it can be tricky in rough Esp,30 40 and 40 50,playing it that way

  I found that when you learn or practice this shot if you do it using full backspin all the time you will be able to figure out how much distance you lose in each lie. This way you can use topspin to adjust  that based on where and how it will be landing on the green.

  One mistake I personally got away from is flopping every chance I got. This is a good up and down shot, usually for saves, but you have a better chance of holing pitches and chips, so don't forsake them.

• hpurey 11,505 Posts

  Wed, Oct 19 2011 6:33 AM

  swdeva:

  Hows this for a flop

   

  Nice

• DarSum 1,440 Posts

  Wed, Oct 19 2011 8:20 AM

  YankeeJim:

  One mistake I personally got away from is flopping every chance I got. This is a good up and down shot, usually for saves, but you have a better chance of holing pitches and chips, so don't forsake them.

   

  Exactly. The only time I use flop is on a severe downhill shot from off the green. STA#5 comes to mind from in front. The rest are full shot with the 64°. Unless I'm within 8 yrds or so then I use chip with my 64°.

  You want to get the ball on the ground and rolling at least a couple yards from the hole to have more of a chance to hole it.

  I've tried and tried to use pitch and just can not get as consistent as I can using full shot.

• SgtDoodles 3,112 Posts

  Wed, Oct 19 2011 8:45 AM

  Totally off-topic DS, but how do you get the degrees sign in your posts? I've tried and the best I can do is *. Tips, please?

  Regarding flop, yada et yada, I use pretty much pitch the whole time and since I did this I have a great holing rate. However, IMO you need the Cleveland wedges or Z Satin 64* wedge. The Cleveland pitch full backspin checks up after 2 or 3 bounces, so it's a safe par or birdie 95% of the time. That 5% is either human error or severely downhill.

  I recommend the L78 Cleveland CG16 60* wedge heavily for anyone who wants to make birdies after missing GIR, and Eagle a few short par5's and very short par4's.