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• RUNWME 1,011 Posts

  Wed, Nov 30 2011 3:25 AM

  stevenharkin:

  since i'm a novice of champ greens on oak i'm not too sure if it is possible for the ball to roll back after your putt....this putt of mine however did stop about 3 inches behind the cup..

  would like to know what is the best way to play the approach at that pin...is their a way to make it stick? maybe full topspin?!

   

  Champ green novice here also.

  I'll use 68  or 84 punch cleveland club shots into that pin with no spin preferably.  If using a full cleveland wedge shot into the pin, Ill add about 3/4 topspin.  Whatever it takes to try to land soft with no forward roll or backspin.

  Never had the ball roll back on the uphill putt there either, but if it was left short, could see it happening.

  Take my  thoughts on it with grain of salt though as still screw the hole up sometimes. Yesterday in oak 2k rdygo, I left myself a pin high 10ft putt, missed it for birdie, 18ft par putt missed, 1ft bogey putt went in.  It was just the first of 2 bogies on the front  getting used to speed of champ greens . 

• ForrestLeigh 264 Posts

  Wed, Nov 30 2011 3:30 AM

  tiffer67:

  In fairness this is my own stupid fault, I tried to land the ball beyond the hole and have it spin back. I played this shot with 2 pix back spin. Let this be a lesson to everyone out there who tries to be as stupid as I was playing to Oak no.2 with championship greens in this way.

  http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=67816d89-53bf-4b62-98d2-9fab0007e5eb

  best viewed camera 5 angle.

  Cleveland 60° wedge? - I was getting bs even with some top applied with those wedges lol, maybe for champ greens the Ping 60° might stop rather than race back to you

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Wed, Nov 30 2011 4:53 AM

  stevenharkin:

  since i'm a novice of champ greens on oak i'm not too sure if it is possible for the ball to roll back after your putt

  It does at BPB15 with Legend speed greens. Putting past the hole from beneath it allows the ball to roll back into the cup. The problem at Oak#2 with Champ greens is that the ball just doesn't stop. Play to land below the hole with top spin to hold it and give yourself an uphill putt.

   

• Yappy22 733 Posts

  Wed, Nov 30 2011 3:43 PM

  I was whining one time awhile back about making a good shot and being punished with a long putt. One of the really good players pointed out to me that hitting your approach at Oak#2 with backspin is not a good shot no matter how close to the hole you hit it because it will roll back so far. He also pointed out that I might better spend my time learning how to hit shots the right way instead of whining. Good advice now if I could just hit my approach at Oak#2 with top spin and not have it go 6ft. pass the pin. :-)

• birdwell 561 Posts

  Wed, Nov 30 2011 9:16 PM

  YankeeJim:

  It does at BPB15 with Legend speed greens. Putting past the hole from beneath it allows the ball to roll back into the cup.

   Whats really fun is when you lip it going up... and coming back down! Only managed that one once.

   

  I am usually hitting a partial b/s punch shot into that #2 oakmont green. Full shot no spin into a headwind. Just hit and pray - think of it this way.. at least it's not cabo #18

• gobbog 150 Posts

  Fri, Dec 2 2011 9:26 AM

  When is the Oakmont $2000 RG going to fill up!??

  I played this Tuesday (3 days ago) and it still has 7 spots open. I've never seen a RG take this long this long to end.

  Not that I really care to see the results, the champ. greens killed me!!

• stevenharkin 1,921 Posts

  Fri, Dec 2 2011 9:41 AM

  that and RSG have been painfully slow to fill...why is it the RG's I like best take longest to fill :)

  champ greens at oak was good ol test..will be interesting to see what the winning score will be

• b0geybuster 2,574 Posts

  Fri, Dec 2 2011 11:32 AM

  stevenharkin:

  that and RSG have been painfully slow to fill...why is it the RG's I like best take longest to fill :)

  champ greens at oak was good ol test..will be interesting to see what the winning score will be

  I can tell you its low, scary low!

  Cheers,

  b0gey

   

• gobbog 150 Posts

  Sat, Dec 3 2011 7:52 AM

  stevenharkin:

  that and RSG have been painfully slow to fill...why is it the RG's I like best take longest to fill :)

  champ greens at oak was good ol test..will be interesting to see what the winning score will be

  RSG finally filled, but Oak still has 3 open spots!

• sunshinewilly 346 Posts

  Sat, Dec 3 2011 8:15 AM

  stevenharkin:

  would like to know what is the best way to play the approach at that pin...is their a way to make it stick? maybe full topspin?!

  Steven, I play that approach with full shot choked if need be (punch would work well too) aimed just about 2 feet to the left of the pin.  It is much flatter on the left,,,try to keep it a tiny bit short of pin high, because past pin high and you get a nasty bender that if it misses...well you know.  There is not much room for error as the flatter landing area is quite small, but works well for me.

  cheers,

  Willy