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Tue, Feb 14 2012 5:05 PM (21 replies)

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xtabent

2,281 Posts

Tue, Feb 14 2012 3:08 AM

Can i have your Balls before you leave..

mine suck..

mantis0014

8,946 Posts

Tue, Feb 14 2012 3:14 AM

12,14 and 24 on the Wheel.

MioKontic

4,655 Posts

Tue, Feb 14 2012 6:08 AM

Lizzie - although I don't think your maths is quite right, I did try something similar once when I went to Vegas... and you can soon go skint! I put a $5 chip on either red or black... and I won at Evens (1:1). Did it again on another table... and won again. Did it again... lost. So now I doubled the bet to $10 (a profit of $5 if I win)... lost again. Doubled again... lost again! No thanks, not for me! But then we came across a table which had just had 12 red numbers in a row. People were no longer simply putting chips on this table but cash, and lots of it. I decided to put some amount, can't remember how much but could easily have been $50 on black... and it came up red AGAIN! [Place expletives here].

With your method, putting one token (say $1) on the first 12 numbers and winning at odds of 36:1 would mean you would actually would have a far healthier profit than you suggest - you'd be 24 up before you start grabbing for the calculator. I did try something similar a few years ago at a local-ish casino near me whilst waiting for a poker game to start. I converted £100 into chips (£5 per chip and minimum bet) and covered 20 numbers - slightly more than half - and then just pray that you win on the first go... which I did! And then won a few more times following that and actually made a profit of a couple of hundred pounds before I eventually lost; I had no method except simply cover 20 numbers, but the number that I lost on was actually my house number - n-n-n-n-nineteen! Had one more go some some time later too and made another profit, but I decided to then quit whilst I was ahead.

In England, the tables games are generally pretty dead in terms of atmosphere. In Vegas there is such a buzz around the tables. And none more so than at a craps table. I'd never played craps (the dice game) before going to Vegas that time, but it was just an amazing experience. And the thing was, I was up nearly $400 before things went sour and I started losing. Fortunately I am pretty good with my money management and knew when to stop. Yes I made a loss, but no more than I had set aside for it anyway. And I wouldn't have given up the experience for anything. Some years later, the company I worked for organised a casino evening. Craps was included. As it isn't a game we have in our casinos in England, I was the only person (except for the croupiers) who knew how to play the game, and I even got a go at being the croupier which was just so much fun! I even learned some of the lingo, but unfortunately I've forgotten it all now.

robdelahunty

670 Posts

Tue, Feb 14 2012 7:24 AM

mantis0014:

12,14 and 24 on the Wheel.

Excuse me Roger,but if ya using 12 and 24 you would be well advised to ditch 14 and include 35 or not it's upto you of course!

LizzieRossetti

1,545 Posts

Tue, Feb 14 2012 8:28 AM

The more I seem to say, the less is understood.

I was talking of putting one token on the whole group of twelve, which has a name that I don't recall.

The payback is 2 to 1, so if you win on the first token, you are one up. The other numbers I worked out as the only way of recovering my loss, but only if I won. This I believe is called accumulating or some thing similar.

The problem arises when you have to put so much on to cover losses that you exceed the table maximum, which is why the maximum is there, so that eventually the house will win.

Working this system for one hour a night I was able to win £300 per hour online, once I had set the options to instant numbers and no animation. It was one of my speriments that had some small merit but as with anything in a casino, the numbers are stacked against you and you find that you indeed reach the maximum on one streak, which means you blow the whole shebang.

Just my two tokens

In 6 minutes, on a free online roulette game, I have just won $26 of fun money using my system... and thats with animation on.

MioKontic

4,655 Posts

Tue, Feb 14 2012 9:22 AM

I'm sorry Lizzie, I misunderstood. Also, there is some ambiguity with the odds. For example i quoted 36:1 for getting a single number. But that includes your bet, so sometimes you will see it as 35:1 and your bet is returned (in 36:1 it wouldn't be).

In your case of 12 numbers the odds are actually 2:1 (using the 35:1 rule) and so you would actually be 2 tokens up and not 1 because your bet is also returned. Red/black pays Evens (1:1) which would mean you are 1 up.