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• Richard4168 4,309 Posts

  Sun, Mar 25 2012 8:52 AM

  Fredddddy:

  Ok then why put out a game that requires more than normal fidgeting?

  I imagine WGT didn't think about the problems with flash when the Developers started writing the code for the game. To your other post, this game will play the same way after it comes out of beta next year. And five years is the normal time for a game to be in beta. The only way to make this game 100% error free is to create the game on disc and this will never happen in the short-term. Too much money would be lost in Internet sales. This golf game is no different then any online poker website.

  Fredddddy:

  Why not make it very user friendly and EASY.

  The tasks we have to do to our computer for a smooth meter and game-play are minimal at best and only take minutes to do. These forums and a Google search will teach any user how to tweak their computer for the best performance and gaming experience. It is a bit vexatious to not be able to plug and play this game, but then again we don't live in a perfect world either. The good part about it is, players can make tweaks to their computers and have a smooth meter, game-play, and fast load times.

  Keeping RAM freed-up and maximized is the best thing anyone can do to ensure good game-play, and for other computer tasks as well. I use a tiny file called RAMRush to keep my RAM at it's peak level.

• woodworkerjunkie 237 Posts

  Sun, Mar 25 2012 9:50 AM

   

  The way I look at it is, this game is controlled over the net, anytime you are using the net, s^it happens! This is not a game loaded on your computer or on a cd, all aspects of the game are controlled over the net. I don't know of anyone who has the perfect internet connection, period!  If you use your computer on the net, most of a day, without closing the browser and reopening it, it will get sluggish toward the end of the day, (mine does anyway). Stop to think how much info is sent through this game on each shot and each player in a multiplayer game, then multiply that times tens of thousands at any one time. People think everything in the world should be "perfect", but, as we know, this game is "not perfect". We all know there is problems with this game along with a lot of other games, frustrating... yes. So are a lot of other things in life, DEAL WITH IT, or leave it, no one is twisting your arm to stay here! It has been well documented, THIS GAME HAS PROBLEMS!   To solve this problem, either quit, or go out and hire a team of developers and develop your own game, then you can solve all the bugs yourself! But grow up and quit the whining and crying, your an adult (or suppose to be), so act like one! It's JUST A GAAAAMMMMEEEE!

  If you can't deal with the bugs, losing credits, losing balls, occasional bad shot, and you're not willing to do the maintanance on your computer, to make sure it is not from your end, then DON'T PLAY THIS GAME; PERIOED!  If you don't want to lose credits for a game your playing, then don't put up the credits to start with, life will go on if you don't get to play that game for credits!  A lot of people (including me) live in areas where we can't put up credits for games, such as Ready Go's, Tournaments with entry fees and Skins. We get along just fine not being able to play these games. So, if your afraid of losing your credits playing these games, don't play them! If there comes a time, enough people quit playing those games, WGT will find a way to fix the bugs to get people to come back and play. Relax, play the game for enjoyment and calm down.  

  And since when is golf supposed to be an easy game? I guess you haven't played a real game of golf! In real golf, you seldom hit the perfect shot, and most people have a problem with hooks and slices that is hard to correct. So if you get a bad shot here, just remember, in real golf, that is more the norm! Even Pro's seldom hit the perfect shot.  Even in real golf, things go wrong all the time: cart quits running, you lose balls in the water and woods, you break clubs, even get broken clubs stuck in your leg. (don't ask how I know...lol)

  Now get back out there and Whack-A-Way.

  That's all I got to say about that...

   

• mrenn29 380 Posts

  Sun, Mar 25 2012 10:55 AM

  HDBanger:

  "99.9% of the time everyone blames WGT,chances are its your CPU trust me.Hope this helps out some of you."

   

   

  Total ignorance, your cpu does not need "clearing out", maybe your RAM does once in awhile, but in this case, total placebo effect.

   

  Ok,so if this was the case,how come the game wouldn;t load for me right after playing 9 holes but when I cleared the cache and what not was able to load the game then?Please explain the ignorance behind that?

• NickNike 8 Posts

  Sun, Mar 25 2012 2:01 PM

  All of Meter advice is very compelling. And everyone seems to have valid, thought provoking opinions (to wit, thank you). But riddle me this fellow "batmen". Three days ago I just bought a $1,900 system with all the gaming bells & whistles and enough speed and Ram to choke a proverbial horse. And yet, I still get the occasional "choppy" meter or "blip" (let's say for argument sake...about 20% of the time). Instead of jumping down the throat of Wgt (although I would like to).....perhaps it's nothing more than the ISP itself? Just wondering. I lean toward it being related to this game being offered via the internet. P.s. On my last computer I played 100% of the time on Google Crome. Tried it, Google Crome, on my new computer...and I never saw a greater meter nightmare. In closing....I don't think its my brand new system. Lol. 

• Infinito3010 3,689 Posts

  Sun, Mar 25 2012 3:30 PM

  I usually stay out of such discussions.  But, it is my humble opinion that the developers should be writing code to clear the flash memory after every shot, and improve the overall gaming experience this site has to offer.   Flash memory should be cleared as it may cause memory overlaps that maybe causing members here issues. 

  There have been lots of posts by members to address the following:

  1. CPU optimization
  2. flash optimization
  3. cache size
  4. Windows o/s tweaks etc. 
  5. Graphic card tweaks
  6. etc, etc.

  If a computer exceeds the minimum requirements to run this game, then there should be no performance issues other than bugs that need to be worked out.

  I have been playing on this site for almost three years now and my game looks like it has been on a merry go-round.  But still enjoy the game of golf since it is a passion.

  I buy the R-11's and see an immediate improvement in my game, two weeks later my game is worse than it ever has been.  Gentlemen, that is based on statistical data.

  WGT, your site is great with immense potential.  Don't screw it up. 

  I play for my own enjoyment and who knows one day my goals will materialize.

  Anyway, back to the original topic.   Sorry WGT, it is up to you to provide a robust gaming environment.  It should not be left to the members to tweak their computer, unless you want to provide step by step guides.

  I think there are certain guides that WGT could provide the members that will not impact their computer.  What services that can be shut down permanetly that will improve the performance of their computer without sacrificing software compatibility.

   

• GolfDum 396 Posts

  Sun, Mar 25 2012 3:33 PM

  Reboots in Windows are almost "required". At least a few times a week is good. You can trust in that or go Google it yourself and listen to millions of experts that will tell you the same.

• Richard4168 4,309 Posts

  Sun, Mar 25 2012 3:59 PM

  Infinito3010:

  If a computer exceeds the minimum requirements to run this game, then there should be no performance issues other than bugs that need to be worked out.

  I agree, but the only issue I can think of from a users standpoint is conducting proper computer maintenance for the whole of a computer, not just the game. This will assure a good gaming experience in the short term.

  Infinito3010:

  I buy the R-11's and see an immediate improvement in my game, two weeks later my game is worse than it ever has been.

  Did you clear your browser cache in that two week period? The precision in the clubs become void after a certain amount of browser files start stacking-up. I cleared my cache and all was good again.

  Infinito3010:

  It should not be left to the members to tweak their computer, unless you want to provide step by step guides.

  WGT has these optimization steps that I'm sure your aware of. It really doesn't address the key issues that make a difference for a smooth meter though.

   

• Infinito3010 3,689 Posts

  Sun, Mar 25 2012 6:38 PM

  Sounds like the great debate:

   

  Richard4168:

  Did you clear your browser cache in that two week period? The precision in the clubs become void after a certain amount of browser files start stacking-up. I cleared my cache and all was good again.

  First thing I did was clear my cache after I bought the R11's.  Always clear my cache after each update also.

  Secondly, the browser I use (Firefox) is totally devoted to WGT, and nothing else. I would assume that the cache files that contain the parameters of the clubs are updated at the beginning of each round.  This will ensure that the clubs your are playing the round with have the correct parameters.

  Why would the precision of the clubs become void.   We are told not to clear our cache. thus there is no necessary files being transferred, such as course description files and HD photos once contain in the cache.

  Richard4168:

  WGT has these optimization steps that I'm sure your aware of. It really doesn't address the key issues that make a difference for a smooth meter though.

  The optimization steps that WGT has are minor.  There is a myriad of optimization techniques one can use to improve performance which most users don't use.  That includes myself.  One can do more harm to one's computer if he/she doesn't know what they are doing.   However, I call this jumping through hoops!!.

  Richard4168:

  I agree, but the only issue I can think of from a users standpoint is conducting proper computer maintenance for the whole of a computer, not just the game. This will assure a good gaming experience in the short term.

  Simple maintenance, such as HD defrag once per week.   Is there anything else you would recommend.

   

• Richard4168 4,309 Posts

  Sun, Mar 25 2012 7:09 PM

  I meant to say, did you see an improvement in your game-play after you cleared your cache? It completely worked for me. I was suffering from the same game-play you described in your other post. No shot would stay on the target line and putts just would not ride the break. Its like I had to putt the aiming cursor on the exact point of the break or the ball would dive below the hole of ride over the top.

  I always clear my Firefox version 10.0.02 cache after a WGT update, but sometimes I forget for a week or two and the amount of files built-up are enormous. It has to be messing with the WGT files or something for the clubs precision to not react. My R11 clubs were literally like starter clubs until I cleared my cache and my score history proves it with the three CC tournaments named "gmac17". I shot a 32, 33, and a 29 after I cleared my cache.

  I agree that the WGT optimization steps offer little to no help to smooth-out the meter. I use CCcleaner once a week to keep my computer clean and I also use a RAM optimizer called RAMRush to keep my RAM at peak level. Its a tiny file. I don't have one problem or issue with this game whatsoever as a result. I agree completely with your first post and how WGT should post some easy meaningful fixes in the FAQ's. I know it's tough to commit to something like that as a company because it makes the product look like it's flawed.

  Performing tweaks to the OS can be dangerous for the novice user and I agree, it is problematic that users have to resort to such steps to play this game. I think WGT needs to make a decision about what they need to do with making this game playable for all users. There must be more people struggling with this game then there is people with no problems at all. The complaints don't seem to be going away anytime soon.