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Re: Oakmont No. 2.......

Fri, Jan 14 2011 7:01 AM (8 replies)
  • tiffer67
    tiffer67
    1,764 Posts
    Thu, Jan 13 2011 4:25 PM

    I just don't get this green at all. We all know that any approach played to the green with backspin runs the risk of running down the hill if it lands short of the pin. Like in the picture below;

     

     

    If however you land above the hole the ball very rarely spins down below the hole, despite there being a fairly sharp drop in the elevation of the green. Like so;

     

    I cannot understand how this happens, given that any putt from above the hole that misses can end up further away than where you started from. This approach shot I hit earlier today being an example;

    replay.aspx?ID=eb5d9c50 5371 47ed b028 9e6a011b11f1

    If someone can explain this to me I'd appreciate it. Better still if someone actually plays to land above the hole, I'd love to see a replay of one of their approaches going in.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • AvatarLee
    AvatarLee
    1,644 Posts
    Thu, Jan 13 2011 5:35 PM

    See #6 and #7 in my Oakmont highlight reel found here, a good 5 or 6 feet of roll back....but keep in mind this was during qualifying, on Championship greens so take it for what it's worth.

  • sdorr
    sdorr
    650 Posts
    Thu, Jan 13 2011 5:41 PM

    Sorry, I don't have an answer for this. The ball should roll back. The same thing happens to me every time on STA. #11 par 3. If the pin is set back on the high side of the green and the ball lands short, it always rolls back down the hill, however, when the pin is set at the bottom just in front of the bunker and the ball lands on that down slope, it sticks there or rolls up the hill and stops. This is using the little to no back spin provided with the WGT B-XD balls. I don't know why it works that way, but it does for me, so I live with it and do the best I can.

  • TheAceFactor
    TheAceFactor
    2,147 Posts
    Thu, Jan 13 2011 6:28 PM

    Can check mine as well Tiffer if you like.

                                                                                                                           Ace

  • KWFegan
    KWFegan
    103 Posts
    Thu, Jan 13 2011 9:39 PM

     

    Maybe this might help!

    TheAceFactor:

    Can check mine as well Tiffer if you like.

                                                                                                                           Ace

     

     

    http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=a3ed4731-5ecc-48df-8bea-9d8e00c8527c

  • tiffer67
    tiffer67
    1,764 Posts
    Fri, Jan 14 2011 4:04 AM

    Wow great shots Lee and Ace. I suppose I really should have asked, do either of you actually play to land beyond the hole with spin?

    ps Loved the punch shot on the green Lee, I never knew you could attempt such a thing....

  • AvatarLee
    AvatarLee
    1,644 Posts
    Fri, Jan 14 2011 5:23 AM

    tiffer67:

    Wow great shots Lee and Ace. I suppose I really should have asked, do either of you actually play to land beyond the hole with spin?

    I did during the championship rounds, but now I go for right about pin high landing and leave a short uphill putt.  It still comes back a bit but the putt is manageable.

    tiffer67:
    ps Loved the punch shot on the green Lee, I never knew you could attempt such a thing....

    Yeah... the things you learn when you're messing around.... A word of caution though, the distance is considerably reduced when hitting off the green.

    Good luck!

     

  • tiffer67
    tiffer67
    1,764 Posts
    Fri, Jan 14 2011 6:12 AM

    Thanks for the tips......enjoyed the Oak diary and replays, well worth taking the time to look at them all.

  • MioKontic
    MioKontic
    4,654 Posts
    Fri, Jan 14 2011 7:01 AM

    sdorr:

    Sorry, I don't have an answer for this. The ball should roll back. The same thing happens to me every time on STA. #11 par 3. If the pin is set back on the high side of the green and the ball lands short, it always rolls back down the hill, however, when the pin is set at the bottom just in front of the bunker and the ball lands on that down slope, it sticks there or rolls up the hill and stops. This is using the little to no back spin provided with the WGT B-XD balls. I don't know why it works that way, but it does for me, so I live with it and do the best I can.

    I was going to say the exact same thing!  Ive done it with freebie balls and GI-S balls, no difference in result.

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