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Re: Does Shot Pal give players an unfair edge?

• Geoffd0 19 Posts

  Thu, Apr 26 2018 1:09 PM

  You missed the whole point.  It wasn't disclosed and it wasn't that big of a deal.  balls, clothes and clubs can be seen by players, "pals" cannot.  We were more of a "trust" club, like h2h we wouldn't use green preview.  I'm sure you use it in your club but that's not golf.  other posters understand the issue.  run a long....

• DAZZA501 5,972 Posts

  Thu, Apr 26 2018 2:19 PM

  My guess is that most here use putter pal but don't use shot pal. The only time you're hitting less than 90% would be with your 64 degree wedge. If you have a player shooting 12 shots better than others then it's probably the ball they use and the fact that they are just a better player and have taken the time to learn the game.

• DAZZA501 5,972 Posts

  Thu, Apr 26 2018 2:25 PM

  el3n1:

  if you look at this one tournament in particular... it may have been the tournament where the concern arose... one player shot a 64 in R3 whereas another player shot a 76.  

  The player who shot 76 doesn't have a 64 degree wedge equipped. This is where the shot difference is coming from.

• el3n1 4,505 Posts

  Thu, Apr 26 2018 4:13 PM

  DAZZA501:

  The player who shot 76 doesn't have a 64 degree wedge equipped. This is where the shot difference is coming from.

  if your irons are dialed in, you don't necessarily pull out the lob wedge all that often unless you miss the green or par 5's but course management can help with that.  

  that said, I still agree with you that not carrying a lob wedge over the long term would very likely show up in a players recovery stats...bunker and par saves when missing the green.  now an elite or top player very familiar with their wedges could possibly manage quite well without a lob wedge but doing so requires you to hit more finesse shots around the green in the 5-15 yard range that a lob wedge would easily handle --why force yourself to do that though?

  as you probably know, some of the SOTW tournaments don't even offer any specialized wedges ( gap, sand, or lob) and players still find a way to shoot very good scores.  the key of course is the approach shot and learning to hit to a lay up yardage if you can't hit or hold the green so that you have a full pitching wedge in rather than a very awkward distance.  at least that is how I have tried to manage when I have attempted them..