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My method for judging WIND

Sun, Jan 11 2015 1:27 PM (36 replies)
  • bearclaw27
    553 Posts
    Fri, May 4 2012 1:04 AM

    I'm not sure I'll expend the brain-power to employ the entire method, but knowing that the 'blue box' represents 10mph of wind could certainly help out...

    thanks for the post...

    --bear

    ps... Is this the type of thing that Butch Harmon teaches Phil Mickleson..?

  • pillsy
    489 Posts
    Fri, May 4 2012 1:21 PM

    Buckeye8084:

    What do you do for long iron shots?

    Do your calculations work when zooming into the green or do you have to be setup at the bal?

    I find that cursor moves all over the place from way to short to way to long fiddling around with it at the ball setup.

    it's based on ball setup, not the zoom mode.  you just have to do the best you can.  again, it's not an exact science, just a way to measure the immeasurable.  i can usually get it pretty accurate with the cursor, but if it's really all over the place, i can zoom in, move it, zoom out, see if it's where it needs to be, then adjust accordingly.  again, if you have a 180 yd shot and trying to move the cursor around brings it to only 60 yards out, the box is going to be a different size, so it won't be as accurate as it can be. 

     

    Also, i may be stating the obvious, but you can move the cursor on the fairway, but you can also move the cursor looking at the birds-eye view shot on the right hand side.  that's what i use most often, because trying to aim on the fairway will get distorted if there's any kinds of hills or anything between you and the landing spot.

     

    **edit**

    forgot to comment on the long iron shots.  do the same thing.  the further the target is, the smaller the box is.  so you're not aiming as far out as you would on a wedge shot that would go higher and be impacted more by the wind.  that's why on a 215 yard shot, you wouldn't use the box 100 yards out as a gauge because it is much bigger than it needs to be.  to be accurate, keep the aiming point closer to 215 yards so the box is the appropriate size for that distance.

    again, it's trial and error, but i really think it's an effective way of judging instead of just winging-it

  • pillsy
    489 Posts
    Fri, May 4 2012 1:24 PM

    bearclaw27:

    I'm not sure I'll expend the brain-power to employ the entire method, but knowing that the 'blue box' represents 10mph of wind could certainly help out...

    thanks for the post...

    --bear

    ps... Is this the type of thing that Butch Harmon teaches Phil Mickleson..?

    honestly not that much brain power.  just break down how much wind is going to impact distance, and how much is going to impact direction.  then figure out how much the blue box is worth, depending on your clubs (high launch, vs. mid).  I'd ratchet your number down from 10 to closer to 6 for starters....just see how it goes.

     

    ps, if only butch taught phil this method, maybe he could have avoided this:

     

  • Buckeye8084
    307 Posts
    Fri, May 4 2012 3:56 PM

    Thanks for the help pillsy. I have the burner 79's and I'm finding the low irons move in the wind a lot more due to the high loft of them but I believe you said in your original post that is what you have too so I don't know. The ball is in the air for a longer period of time so it tends to move more.

    I think what I'm going to do is try to create some yardage value from the closeup view. Every time I ding it and I stick it close I'm going to write it down. Over time maybe I can come up with a pretty consistent figure. I've played with feel for a long time, but I think I'd like to be a little more accurate if possible. 

    thanks again for the advice. 

  • pillsy
    489 Posts
    Fri, May 4 2012 6:49 PM

    no problem, glad i could share and help.  burner 2.0's i usually figure about 5 mph per box (well, 10 per box, but 5 from the triangle to the edge of the box).  but again, depends on elevation, ball type...and there's still "feel" involved.  if i hit 4 straight shots that i didn't move over far enough, my next one i might bump it out a bit.  maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me that round...

  • Santiago124
    157 Posts
    Fri, May 4 2012 7:00 PM

    Smart method Pillsy... utilizing the box as a marker is rather innovative and if the method provides the structure to be able to manage some control over your shots other than hand...errr... index finger and eye coordination..:-)...then hell yeah, thats good golfing!!

    Kudos and Thanks to you and those that share these ideas to all.... and sure go ahead..break that wind!! :-)

  • MainzMan
    9,591 Posts
    Sat, May 5 2012 2:32 AM

    I use a different method that seems time consuming when you start but really only needs a few seconds and after a while can be done in your head.  Works well too, I was always a feel player but having a system definitely helps scores.

    One other thing to bear in mind is when you have a wedge shot to the flag the ball will almost always roll a yard or so with the wind (above 10mph or so) after landing, you need to allow for this too.

  • MDWa
    23 Posts
    Sat, Jan 3 2015 12:06 AM

    I have a problem that has been reoccurring. Here is 1 example 10-12 mph wind blowing left to right I move the arrow approx. 20 ft. left I then (hit early) because I have a problem hitting th ding :) but the ball goes 20-30 ft right of the hole.?? how is this possible.Can someone give me a reasonable explanation.

  • PaulTon
    10,731 Posts
    Sat, Jan 3 2015 4:03 AM

    MDWa:

    I have a problem that has been reoccurring. Here is 1 example 10-12 mph wind blowing left to right I move the arrow approx. 20 ft. left I then (hit early) because I have a problem hitting th ding :) but the ball goes 20-30 ft right of the hole.?? how is this possible.Can someone give me a reasonable explanation.

    This may help.

  • ApexPC
    3,164 Posts
    Sat, Jan 10 2015 9:55 PM

    MDWa:

    I have a problem that has been reoccurring. Here is 1 example 10-12 mph wind blowing left to right I move the arrow approx. 20 ft. left I then (hit early) because I have a problem hitting th ding :) but the ball goes 20-30 ft right of the hole.?? how is this possible.Can someone give me a reasonable explanation.

    How far away was the hole? How early was the hit? How approximate to 20 feet left?

    If you use the Chip/Pitch/Flop shot green grid you can move the aim point more accurately. Using the Pitch/Chip shot mode - putting green grid 

    The wind is 11 MPH and the shot is 250 feet you have to allow for the ball to move 27.5 feet - 11 x 2.50 = 27.5 

    Plus what PaulTon linked to.

     

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