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Wed, Jul 11 2012 9:01 AM (7 replies)
  • toripyne
    195 Posts
    Wed, Jul 11 2012 8:37 AM

    So, if several of the greens are shared at St A's, what's the local rule if you were to hit a ball into the wrong hole on a given green?

  • SANFRANFLAMER
    25 Posts
    Wed, Jul 11 2012 9:01 AM

    you have to turn in your guy card

  • kingpin82
    145 Posts
    Wed, Jul 11 2012 9:55 AM

    Couldn't find the answer to your question...so now i don't care. :)

  • AvatarLee
    1,644 Posts
    Wed, Jul 11 2012 10:06 AM

    Straight from the R&A website:

    25-3 - Wrong Putting Green

    a. Interference 

    Interference by a wrong putting green occurs when a ball is on the wrong putting green. Interference to a player’s stance or the area of his intended swing is not, of itself, interference under this Rule. 

    b. Relief 

    If a player’s ball lies on a wrong putting green, he must not play the ball as it lies. He must take relief, without penalty, as follows: 

    The player must lift the ball and drop it within one club-length of and not nearer the hole than the nearest point of relief. The nearest point of relief must not be in a hazard or on a putting green. When dropping the ball within one club-length of the nearest point of relief, the ball must first strike a part of the course at a spot that avoids interference by the wrong putting green and is not in a hazard and not on a putting green. The ball may be cleaned when lifted under this Rule. 

     

    Q.  And finally, double-greens.  Does Rule 25-3 apply to a double-green?

    A double-green is one putting green that is shared by two holes: the second and 16th holes on the Old Course are a perfect example. If, while playing the 16th, a ball comes to rest on a part of the green close to the flagstick for the second hole, as this is one putting green, Rule 25-3 does not apply.  The player must play the ball as it lies, even if it requires a putt of 50 yards or more! 

  • toripyne
    195 Posts
    Wed, Jul 11 2012 10:12 AM

    AvatarLee:

    Straight from the R&A website:

     

     

    Thanks.  Did a bit of googling and couldn't really find a great answer.

    Doesn't say anything about being in the wrong hole, as in 2/16 greens, but I gather from rule 25-3, that you'd drop without penalty.

     

  • AvatarLee
    1,644 Posts
    Wed, Jul 11 2012 11:40 AM

    Yeah that's interesting... I mis-read your original question.  I would assume it is a free drop within one club length no closer to the hole.

  • AvatarLee
    1,644 Posts
    Wed, Jul 11 2012 11:50 AM

    Upon further searching I found this.... it is fairly similar and would assume the same decision would apply to your scenario.

    Decision 16/7 (USGA)

    Two Holes on Each Green of Nine-Hole Course

    Q.1. Is it permissible for a Committee to make two holes on each green of a nine-hole course, one (A) for use in play of the first nine holes and the other (B) for use in play of the second nine?

    2. If so, what is the status of hole B on each green when hole A is in use, and vice versa?

    A.1. Yes.

    2. The hole not in use on each green is a hole made by a greenkeeper - see Definition of "Ground Under Repair" - and Rule 25-1 is applicable.

  • alosso
    21,070 Posts
    Wed, Jul 11 2012 11:53 AM

    toripyne:

    Doesn't say anything about being in the wrong hole, as in 2/16 greens, but I gather from rule 25-3, that you'd drop without penalty.

    They said, 25-3 doesn't apply.

    I assume 25-1 to take over, "man-made hole", and since it's on the correct green you'd have to place the ball.

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