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Differentiate Between "Tournament" Green Speeds

Fri, Aug 17 2012 3:05 PM (35 replies)
  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, Aug 11 2012 2:00 PM

    Buggyyy:
    I don't even know what the stimpmeter is, so it wouldn't be easier for me

    It would be if you knew what a stimpmeter rating is. This is a golf sim trying to be as close to real as possible and when you reduce a game like golf to numbers, these stimp numbers become very relevant. They create a grey area that can only be figured out by putting on the green. That's where seeing an actual number would help.

    WGT goes by these numbers in the game. The way I understood the use of them from the chat is this way. In tiered tournaments, i.e., all TM or all Legend, a whole stimpmeter number is used. TM=11.0, Legend=12.0. You get the speed you're used to at that tier. In mixed tier tournaments, however,  something in between a whole number is used and isn't constant, i.e., 11.x, 10.x, etc. Since that random number determines the green speed for a particular situation, I could see where actually naming the greens wouldn't work.

    The end result is making this game as real as possible. Those putting greens the pros get to use aren't the same as the ones on the course. Not even close. They're perfect putting surfaces to practice on. (Having one here with the pertinent speeds would be hugely unreal.) They still have to figure out the real thing  on the first few holes and so do we.

    FWIW, I had your position until I realized it was futile. ;-)

  • Buggyyy
    1,963 Posts
    Sat, Aug 11 2012 4:20 PM

    I'm not asking for a stimpmeter. I'm just asking for an easier way to differentiate between the two green speeds with the same name. How many twins do you know that have the same name? None, because parents, family members, and friends use those names as a way to differentiate between the twins.

  • Alan_M
    237 Posts
    Sun, Aug 12 2012 1:37 PM

    Master Tournament,

    Tour Master Tournament,

    Legend Tournament.

    Even that would solve the issue, you jet need to be advised roughly what to expect, not see your first putt sail 15ft past.

     

  • Buggyyy
    1,963 Posts
    Sun, Aug 12 2012 2:59 PM

    Masters don't play on Tournament greens; they play on Very Fast greens. Those three names are too long for the space they use to shoe in the game window.

  • Alan_M
    237 Posts
    Sun, Aug 12 2012 3:28 PM

    TM Tournament

    L Tournament

  • Tightrope
    1,072 Posts
    Sun, Aug 12 2012 3:43 PM

    Green speed at the WGT Kiawah Championship is labelled "Tournament" and of course one expect the normal Tournament speed (Legend), instead it is somehwere around "Very Fast", around 15%.

    Distinct speed numbers are necessary, otherwise this is a game of trial and error rather than skill.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sun, Aug 12 2012 4:10 PM

    Tightrope:
    Green speed at the WGT Kiawah Championship is labelled "Tournament" and of course one expect the normal Tournament speed (Legend)

    Not of course. If it was Legend only, yes. It isn't so you get something less than true Legend tournament speed. 

  • Buggyyy
    1,963 Posts
    Sun, Aug 12 2012 4:11 PM

    Why are you guys trying to bring numbers into the equation? When we are playing golf on WGT, they give us names to describe the speed of the greens. Yes we use numbers to determine how much power to use determined on the speed, but in the upper right hand corner, there aren't any numbers next to the word Green Speed.

    All I'm asking is can WGT provide an alternate name for one of the "Tournament" green speeds to eliminate confusion when playing their tournaments.

  • Tightrope
    1,072 Posts
    Sun, Aug 12 2012 4:25 PM

    YankeeJim:
    Not of course. If it was Legend only, yes. It isn't so you get something less than true Legend tournament speed. 

    It is less that TM speed as well. And why should I expect anything else than my normal tournament speed?

  • andyson
    6,415 Posts
    Sun, Aug 12 2012 5:39 PM

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