Puholino,thanks you very much for the advice,I have noticed problems with the spacing between my clubs and your suggestions seem to be the solution,I'm going to save my credits and go for one of the wedges like the ping 54 degree that you mentioned,I love this game and want to thank all who contribute their knowledge generosity and experience to those of us trying to figure out our next best move to advance,nothing better than to have experienced players like yourself to help the rest of us gain the knowledge we need as you have already been there,,,again ty ty ty