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Legends that dont have access to the better clubs.

• DDRoss1 1,809 Posts

  Sat, Mar 9 2013 5:35 AM

  Oldbayrunner:

  Players at those levels get the advantages because they earned their way by playing and taking the time to get to those levels and get the better clubs..Why should players that have tiered up via the current short cuts get special privileges to get what others have had to wait and work their butts off through the levels to get. I say no let the system remain as it is where it still takes effort and time for the rewards of better equipment, even for those who have taken short cuts to higher tiers.

   You know thats a pretty screwed up thing to say to me, what freakin shortcut did i take, so i cashed, not won a couple of RGs and I at TM was able to knock off some legends and TLs in MP which we like to use in our CC for mentoring, playing with a better player to learn more about shots and short game tricks, SO what shortcut did i take, just curious, since you seem to think i did not earn my legend status. Look at my stats brother before you assume anything.

  Also looking at your stats,you have not won or placed an stroke play tourneys, and i even have more stroke play rounds in tourneys than you do, so dont tell me about time played. LOL

• DDRoss1 1,809 Posts

  Sat, Mar 9 2013 5:40 AM

  tiger319:

  I agree with you Oldbayrunner. I have spent hours playing this game and I still don't have the biggest and best clubs either but have learned to use what I have. If we could get those clubs at level 50 Master then everyone would be good...  But then again there would be someone whining about something else.....

   You have been playing this game for 3 years, just because you took some time off, is the only reason you dont have the level for those clubs, not my fault, you took the time off, and you have a great avg and seems to always have, so i dont see were your playing hours, and yet only a couple of levels higher than i am, and i have only been playing since August 2012, and for shortcuts, thats a joke, i never won an RG i played in and never have won a WGT tourney and only managed to beat some Legends and TLs, other than that, i had very few rounds and new out of this world scoring.

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sat, Mar 9 2013 5:53 AM

  This is "largely" from another similar thread but sits well here I think:

   

  A class act will make a lot of equipment perform very well.  Just like IRL though many will never be that good.  They are good enough to get to Legend at say L62 or close and then have their game experience diminished because they can't get something a bit better for quite a while.  Not saying they should immediately get the L98 one but something a bit better a bit sooner may help them to shoot a little lower a little quicker and / or generally enhance their fun.  To me that is good for the game and therefore also good for WGT's coffers, and so all win.  Lots of people say it so I say let them access something better a bit sooner..............not saying the R1 maybe...And also the very best players will stay the best because they are better players, no arguments there!

  I am Level 88 and cut it as any one may there is some effort getting there from L68......I personally would have no issue with my level of equipment immediately being opened up to a new say even L63 Legend..................  In one way of day when I am higher I won't mind either but that's me! My opinion.  It's just a game (a very good one) and peoples leisure time.......

• IRISHPUNK 4,019 Posts

  Sat, Mar 9 2013 6:08 AM

  Dannyphantom:

  As a Legend I agree, its just bad business to not have access to any and all equipment.  I should not have to play at a disadvantage just because my level is not higher.  I play from the back, I feel it should be level or tier to not punish people in my situation.

  You're making way too much sense.  A lvl playing field for all legends?  Yep, too much sense.  I'd like wgt to make the lvl 94 driver available to all legends right now.  

• CerinoDevoti 3,232 Posts

  Sat, Mar 9 2013 7:39 AM

  Oldbayrunner:

  DDRoss1:

   I for one appreciate everyones opinion regarding this matter, as i think something needs to be done about it. The game is fun, but when your a low level legend and competing with a level 90 TM or higher, and they get the advantages, something needs to be done.

  Players at those levels get the advantages because they earned their way by playing and taking the time to get to those levels and get the better clubs..Why should players that have tiered up via the current short cuts get special privileges to get what others have had to wait and work their butts off through the levels to get. I say no let the system remain as it is where it still takes effort and time for the rewards of better equipment, even for those who have taken short cuts to higher tiers.

  Your opinion appears similar to mine. As for Level the driver is experience points. Those points means games played. For myself that also means practice rounds. All this talk that one can't compete because of their equipment ignores the fact that practice rounds also make XP's and provide real information to be used in competition. The pros practice like crazy. That's REAL experience points they use in competitions. We have the ability to do the same. I've played perhaps twice as many practice rounds as ranked games. I like to gain experience and WGT rewards us for doing so.

  So bottom line, instead of pining for those clubs that are above our current level, practice with what you have for the double reward of real playing experience as well as WGT experience points that will rack up and speed up the process of getting to those better clubs. Use the par 3 course and miss every green challenging yourself to shoot par. I'll miss the green, play my recovery and if I miss the par putt, I putt it back off the green and try again. It's real practice that we can't do while trying to compete in RG's or MP's. Without a doubt someone will mention that all this practice cost credits in GB's. I only practice with the free ball. I can easily shoot under par on every course with it and it's free. It also makes you learn new shots because the ball won't stick like glue.

  Re; the Big Deal Driver, IMO the driver is the least important club in our bags. Our irons, wedges and especially our putters win us games. I've yet to get up and down from a bunker with a driver ,I've yet to make the putt that wins the match with a driver. Check out the stats of the players with the really really low averages. Their driving stats are normal but their scrambling and putting stats are off the charts. They beat us around the greens not off the tee. Driver distance isn't recorded on the score card, it's only strokes. Learn to lower your overall strokes and the XP's will build up and that Super Club that you think you can't live without won't matter quite so much. I really enjoy playing against people with the best equipment while I use the G20's and a ball that cost half as much as their magic pill. They hit it in the water and go nuts, I hit it in the drink and laugh.

  Prepare, Execute and Let It Go. Once the ball leaves your immediate ability to persuade it, it's gone into the Lap of the Gods.

• DDRoss1 1,809 Posts

  Sat, Mar 9 2013 8:21 AM

  Myself, i am saying one last thing, and i am done with this thread. I am just tired of playing in mps or alt shots with TMs and Masters who are a higher level than I am, getting the equipment i cant have, and trust me there are many. I wished now i never started this thread, but i was trying to express, that really there should be in intermediate level of clubs for legends that reached it before Level 90, that have worked very hard at this game, only to play a TM hitting the R11s with R11 irons. Not only do the get a distance advantage they get a club advantage. I am posting nothing else in this thread, cuz i see that its not going anyhwere. Thanks for taking the time to read and post YOUR opinions, and have a great week and happy hitting.

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sat, Mar 9 2013 8:29 AM

  CerinoDevoti.....................although it's not just about the driver it's more about all clubs...............I take your point and that's fine...........Any one that says you need to earn the right to have slightly better clubs I disagree with...........I suggest a change in game play to allow ALL Legend plus players accessto better clubs as SOON as they reach that tier.  If they do not want to practice that hard then so be it they will never stand as chance as getting as good as some, but they will ENJOY using it and it might help a little score wise (may do may not but overall L62 everything possibly not as good as L88 everything).  I hear plenty then say not about the clubs at all but elsewhere they are posting what they had to use................

  In the end though this is just a game and I say allow greater flexibility for people to use it as they will within tiers.  If that does it for em who cares..if it helps their game wonderful! And frankly anyone saying how they had to earn it and complaining about all the new fangled power ups that allow rapid progression......it's a game and games evolve to serve a market same as any service industry.

  I take your point on all the practice and those that wish to do all that will demonstrate their prowess just the same in the end.  I will guarantee that if I am around here 10 years and get the L130 driver and the rule changes that every new Legend now gets it I would not care...................I think WGT should change the game a little bit more in that direction that's all really..............things evolve all the time and it will be just one more evolutionary step..........consumerism drives the market or should do........................

• tiger319 1,186 Posts

  Sat, Mar 9 2013 8:42 AM

  Tier has nothing to do with TM's and M's.  It's experience!! I don't like those guys either.  Most are keeping their averages high so they don't have to move up to legend.  There are several good clubs that you can get your hands on and compete.  Just play more.

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sat, Mar 9 2013 8:44 AM

  DDRoss1:

  Myself, i am saying one last thing, and i am done with this thread. I am just tired of playing in mps or alt shots with TMs and Masters who are a higher level than I am, getting the equipment i cant have, and trust me there are many. I wished now i never started this thread, but i was trying to express, that really there should be in intermediate level of clubs for legends that reached it before Level 90, that have worked very hard at this game, only to play a TM hitting the R11s with R11 irons. Not only do the get a distance advantage they get a club advantage. I am posting nothing else in this thread, cuz i see that its not going anyhwere. Thanks for taking the time to read and post YOUR opinions, and have a great week and happy hitting.

  Cheers dude..............................

• silkyuk9 429 Posts

  Sat, Mar 9 2013 10:31 AM

  Once you reach legend you should have access to all equipment. How can a 70+ Legend compete against a 98+ legend? How can a 70+ legend compete with a 90+ Master?