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Sat, Mar 23 2013 9:52 AM (60 replies)
  • notonthis
    893 Posts
    Wed, Mar 20 2013 10:52 PM

    xXxjasonxXx:

    the reason they probly removed it is cause it will chase off any new players coming in..

    what would u think just joining a game an then go read in the forums an all you see is cheats cheats cheats never ends,,,, an no i do not support it by any means but coming in here an posting about it is not going to get you anywhere either,,,, an there most likely not going to be anything done about it either,,,,, would cost WGT way to much money to change this game over to some other typ of flash HD whatever else is out there an on top of it all people are just making the problem worst then it was now by posting the crap in here just think about all the people that did not know about it an now are using this crap THINK THINK THINK befor acting on somthing,,,, use the WGT email so that you are not advertising the crap on here for everyone an there mom to use it just like the saying go's LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS!!!!!!!!!!

     Best thing yall could do is stick with ur friends an in your CC turnys an stay away from credit game if u dont have the skills to atleast win back a lil profit thats just my opinion.....

    its your choice if you want to risk your credits nobody else's.......

    Don't forget its just a game,,,,,, every game is going to have cheaters its just the nature of the beast it will never be stopped even if wgt changed everything up cause it would just start all over agin someone smart enuff will figure out how to do it agin an it just is a never ending battle!!!!!!

    Bout the smartest response i've seen in along time.

     

  • Chinajohn
    1,190 Posts
    Wed, Mar 20 2013 11:08 PM

    xXxjasonxXx:

    the reason they probly removed it is cause it will chase off any new players coming in..

    what would u think just joining a game an then go read in the forums an all you see is cheats cheats cheats never ends,,,, an no i do not support it by any means but coming in here an posting about it is not going to get you anywhere either,,,, an there most likely not going to be anything done about it either,,,,, would cost WGT way to much money to change this game over to some other typ of flash HD whatever else is out there an on top of it all people are just making the problem worst then it was now by posting the crap in here just think about all the people that did not know about it an now are using this crap THINK THINK THINK befor acting on somthing,,,, use the WGT email so that you are not advertising the crap on here for everyone an there mom to use it just like the saying go's LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS!!!!!!!!!!

     Best thing yall could do is stick with ur friends an in your CC turnys an stay away from credit game if u dont have the skills to atleast win back a lil profit thats just my opinion.....

    its your choice if you want to risk your credits nobody else's.......

    Don't forget its just a game,,,,,, every game is going to have cheaters its just the nature of the beast it will never be stopped even if wgt changed everything up cause it would just start all over agin someone smart enuff will figure out how to do it agin an it just is a never ending battle!!!!!! 

    Using the exact same logic you've just used (the cheats will cheat anyway) leads to the conclusion that posting about cheats will NOT increase the amount of cheats. Because cheats will cheat anyway.

    What is more, and the purpose of my main post all those weeks ago, was to warn new players of the enhanced risks here and to incite some discussion on possible solutions and to hightlight that the VEM deviations may be for a reason and discuss whether the cure is worse than the disease. All Ostrich management to the issue gets you is sand in your mouth. 

     

  • xXxjasonxXx
    688 Posts
    Wed, Mar 20 2013 11:19 PM

    Chinajohn:
    Using the exact same logic you've just used (the cheats will cheat anyway) leads to the conclusion that posting about cheats will NOT increase the amount of cheats. Because cheats will cheat anyway.

    agree,,,,,,, but if those cheats did not know how befor now they do is what my point was why give them the tools,, if they find it on there own so be it.. 

    An as for your concern about new players geting cheated thats very nice of you,, But the only way to learn is to make mistakes an with out them small mistakes in life what do you learn nothing.........  

  • courteneyfish
    15,796 Posts
    Wed, Mar 20 2013 11:32 PM

    To be fair it was getting a bit silly, and I expect this one will too. 

  • Chinajohn
    1,190 Posts
    Wed, Mar 20 2013 11:40 PM

    courteneyfish:

    To be fair it was getting a bit silly, and I expect this one will too. 

    In which case by all means close the thread, but to delete the complete thread I think is / was a LOT OTT.

  • alanti
    10,564 Posts
    Wed, Mar 20 2013 11:49 PM

    Jason, I totally respect you as a player and like all top players you deserve respect for your acheivements in the game.

    But these forums are the only outlet we have to vent, discuss, mentor and advise. If we cannot say anything negative does this mean we should not talk about ab issue?. Yes there are problems with the game (and have seen you venting before lol) but without discussion and WGT knowing our frustrations, then they cannot plan or implement changes.

    Whenever there is a problem you must problem solve, and we as a community can put forward our ideas and some hopefully will be taken onboard by WGT.

    You say new players will be put off by seeing the forums - I would suggest that they are getting warned about possible pitfalls. And after all when they see a 28 by a hack in a weekly tournament, they must be pretty green around the gills not to see someythng amiss. Yes all games will have cheats and I seriously do not believe this is widespread on WGT, perhaps I am naive, but what does bother me is the reputation of top players who cop the accusations - but I suppose this also comes with the territory (one of which sadly I will never get to).

    Yes it is just a game and if someone wants to gamble credits, caveat emptor! Personally I play for fun, not credits so the only impact it has on me is the game I love is tarnished by a very small minority. However I believe multi accounter issue in comparison is widespread and this impacts many players, especially those newbies. So by sweeping things under the carpet as you suggest will do far more damage (especially to those newbies) than raising the issues in the forums.

    The great thing about the forum is we all can have some input, and they are only OUR opinions. Then it is up to the reader to decide what is relevant and what is not and make their own mind up on an issue after taking all sides into account. Censureship is a form a dictatorship.

     

  • xXxjasonxXx
    688 Posts
    Thu, Mar 21 2013 12:23 AM

    alanti:
    But these forums are the only outlet we have to vent, discuss, mentor and advise. If we cannot say anything negative does this mean we should not talk about ab issue?. Yes there are problems with the game (and have seen you venting before lol) but without discussion and WGT knowing our frustrations, then they cannot plan or implement changes.

    First just want to say thank you on the respect, an much respect for you also for such an honest kind responses...

     

    Yes I completely agree with you that the forums are here for us to vent an people should  point out problems we are having...

    My biggest concern was that people are in here advertising the cheats,,, that just shows everyone that is not honest people how to cheat .....

    Somethings  should be kept out of forums an should only be shared with WGT by email thats all i was trying to point out.... sry about my typing skills yes i know they suck lmao...

     

    Jason..

     

     

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Thu, Mar 21 2013 12:49 AM

    Chinajohn:

     All Ostrich management to the issue gets you is sand in your mouth. 

     

    I hear that!

     “The internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it”  - John Gilmour

    Deletion of the whole thread NOT the way to deal with this issue!

  • alanti
    10,564 Posts
    Thu, Mar 21 2013 12:51 AM

    LMAO typing has never been my forte either!

    And I totally agree if there is a link or infers a link to a cheat, that post should be deleted immediately and is against the posting rules.

    I have been lucky to play with a few of the very good players, and have helped me with my average game. This is why I know the hours of practice they have put in gets somewhat sullied from accusations. And we all need something to try and aspire to ....sigh....lol

    And thats enough from me on this topic.

  • MBaggese
    15,375 Posts
    Thu, Mar 21 2013 1:12 AM

    Eff'em, they can ding this:

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