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• tiffer67 1,764 Posts

  Wed, May 22 2013 5:09 PM

  westie37:

  It does tend to get in the way of having some fun. Keep hitting them straight on WGT. But can you agree that 400 yard drives are too long? Can the best players shoot in the low 60s and the lesser ones in the high 90s. That wouldn't spoil WGT, would it?

  I have only ever hit 3 or 4 drives over 400 yards in all of the time I have been playing, it really doesn't happen that often. I do however happen to agree with you that the scoring is ridiculous. There are attempts going on to develop the game and make it harder but these attempts run the risk of the game being less enjoyable for a lot of players. Getting the balance right between the gameplay and commercial needs of WGT is where the difficulty lies.

   

• westie37 965 Posts

  Wed, May 22 2013 5:11 PM

  OK you can have 400 yard drives on WGT, but nobody else.

• MBaggese 15,368 Posts

  Wed, May 22 2013 5:18 PM

  westie37:

  But can you agree that 400 yard drives are too long? Can the best players shoot in the low 60s and the lesser ones in the high 90s.

   

  Two things...of the 1000's upon 1000's of drives I have had, just one crested 400 yards.  You seem to think players do it several times a round, just not the case.

   

  regarding your numbers of low 60's vs 90's...sure, but that would still raise issues with lower quality players complaining they cannot shoot par...really, there is no "in between", no one will be happy with 90's, 80's, etc, even if say 68 was the cut line at the Open.

   

  You'd hear "I used to shoot a few 65's, now I can't, WGT has rigged it so I can't make the cut".

• MBaggese 15,368 Posts

  Wed, May 22 2013 5:20 PM

  thebigeasy707:

  I'm not sure what my score for that hole would have turned out to be

   

  Easy par from there...just wedge out to another truck heading back to the course;)

• westie37 965 Posts

  Wed, May 22 2013 5:34 PM

  Fair point.  I just think the length and set up at Merion did not lend itself to scores that low. I picked 400 yds as an example. How many of the top players are averaging in the mid to high 300 yard range. Still makes all courses play  easier.

   

  Speaking of making it easier for Westie37, what is the math and  the formula Woodoworkey was talking to you about? I'm 62 and way behind the learning curve here.

  Share your knowledge with the old ugly American.

• westie37 965 Posts

  Wed, May 22 2013 5:47 PM

  Should have used averaging in the mid to high 300 yard drives.  makes all courses easier.

  US Open set up was hardest Ive seen on this game, yet scores were lowest. Enough complaining, I have other issues with WGT, but I do agree that the happy medium is to easy to achieve. I do wonder how many of the staff and programmers have ever played golf. Keep going after those mid to low 60s!

• lbcgolf 314 Posts

  Wed, May 22 2013 9:34 PM

  westie37:

  Should have used averaging in the mid to high 300 yard drives.  makes all courses easier.

  Restate it again westie.  I have an R1 and play a L81 Nike ball.  I ding a fair amount of my drives.  At Merion, IF I happen to be on a hole I can take a full drive, it generally translates somewhere between 290 to 310.  Hole #4 and a couple other ones that are downhill or you can find the speed slot on the fairway, maybe you can hit 340.  Then there are par 4s where if you hit full driver it will get you in the krapper lie #s 1, 7, 8, 10 and 11... It sure ain't St. Andy's that's for sure.

  Which sorta illustrates, quite bluntly if I may... that you have no understanding of what it takes to go low at Merion.  Really the drive length is the LEAST of your problems.  For a top player on a par 4 or 5, they should be downrange high 200s or low 300s and on the short grass 9x out of 10.  THAT'S A GIVEN.  But if you can accomplish this, it pretty much guarantees you nothing but a bag of doughnuts.

  If you learn nothing, learn this:  95% of the game is a combination of how tight to the pin you can get your approach shots and how well you can drain the putts.

• MBaggese 15,368 Posts

  Wed, May 22 2013 10:12 PM

  lbcgolf:

  If you learn nothing, learn this:  95% of the game is a combination of how tight to the pin you can get your approach shots and how well you can drain the putts.

   

  Oh what do you know;)

   

  For sure, closer in on approach  is best play.

• MBaggese 15,368 Posts

  Wed, May 22 2013 10:13 PM

  westie37:

  Fair point.  I just think the length and set up at Merion did not lend itself to scores that low. I picked 400 yds as an example. How many of the top players are averaging in the mid to high 300 yard range. Still makes all courses play  easier.

   

  Speaking of making it easier for Westie37, what is the math and  the formula Woodoworkey was talking to you about? I'm 62 and way behind the learning curve here.

  Share your knowledge with the old ugly American.

  Curious to who you may be speaking to or talking about here?

• jimbean346 3,006 Posts

  Thu, May 23 2013 2:38 AM

  Westie; if you run a search over there >>>>>, you'll find an old forum post (by Funkyjunkie3000) about the average age of players on WGT. You'll tend to find the bulk of players who are tour legends with sub-58 averages are often between the age of 20-40 years old.

  It's a common fact that reaction time gets slower as you get older. The game is more accessible nowadays due to the slower meter speeds but back in 2011, you needed to have cat-like reactions to be able to get anywhere near the ding. Play with a starter ball and a club set with a meter speed of at least halfway to gauge what it used to be like.

  The scores which are posted are possible on a consistent basis but as with any computer game (which this is), it needs a lot of practice and reasonable reactions to do so.

  Best of luck to you on WGT in the future.