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uneven lies

• natemakesaholein 105 Posts

  Thu, Jun 6 2013 2:57 PM

  uneven lies have got to be the worst thing WGT has come up with. Your shots go off like you bombed even though you dinged and moved the aimer into the weeds to account for the lie. Also, my clubs start acting like their distances are anywhere from 5 yds to 30 yds shorter than advertised. I just had a shot into a 13mph head wind with a virtually even lie, the shot was 87 yds. I hit it about 96 no spin, it was four yards short. I was using max balls which have some distance. This is the Legend Merion Tourney I am playing. Until you can get the uneven lies crap straightened out, don't make tourneys for it. They don't work!!

• WGTicon 12,511 Posts

  Thu, Jun 6 2013 3:24 PM

  natemakesaholein:

  uneven lies have got to be the worst thing WGT has come up with. Your shots go off like you bombed even though you dinged and moved the aimer into the weeds to account for the lie. Also, my clubs start acting like their distances are anywhere from 5 yds to 30 yds shorter than advertised. I just had a shot into a 13mph head wind with a virtually even lie, the shot was 87 yds. I hit it about 96 no spin, it was four yards short. I was using max balls which have some distance. This is the Legend Merion Tourney I am playing. Until you can get the uneven lies crap straightened out, don't make tourneys for it. They don't work!!

  hi

  sure they work. uneven lies are just that. you have to compensate not only for lie angle but also distance. they will also make you think twice where to drive. many times I layup to a flatter part of the fairway rather than get closest and have to deal with a slope.

  from rough/sand, they are a beast, so I would pay extra attention to that.

  -wgticon

• TracyMax 2,361 Posts

  Sat, Jun 29 2013 9:19 PM

  WGTicon:

  sure they work. uneven lies are just that. you have to compensate not only for lie angle but also distance. they will also make you think twice where to drive. many times I layup to a flatter part of the fairway rather than get closest and have to deal with a slope.

  from rough/sand, they are a beast, so I would pay extra attention to that.

  -wgticon

  Just played your "improved " uneven lies and there is no improvement. Come on balls do not react like you have them programmed to do. Trying to hit the ball is "by WILD *** GUESS"! It's not realistic period! 

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Sat, Jun 29 2013 9:44 PM

  WGTicon:

  from rough/sand, they are a beast, so I would pay extra attention to that

  This is part of the game that doesn't compute..... 

  Lets say your 8yrds from the green in light rough.....  sometimes you have to aim off the screen to get close to to pin....  That is not golf ...let alone a golf game....lol

  U/Lie games .... is the pits

  -Roger

• oneeyedjohn 9,589 Posts

  Sun, Jun 30 2013 8:54 AM

  I think ur mantra Rog is to 'have fun', well there is fun to be had playing Uel.

  You should start off playing Kiawah with starter clubs and balls, and then you will realise what a hard golf course that is.

  It will make you realise what these golf courses are all about.

  Go to St Andrews and try to find the hunps with ur drive.

  Run a 3 iron up to the pin on #16 from a 190 yards, it is really back to basics and using ur judgment rather than just throwing darts and hitting bombs off the tee.

• LOLserver 3,522 Posts

  Sun, Jun 30 2013 12:03 PM

  I share Icon's opinion about Uneven Lies, to me there is a challenge every time you start a UL round and I try to learn & get the best fun out of them.

  Uneven Lies are not perfect, shot game around the green is very hard at the moment and nasty if you have never play it before, WGT needs to tuned it up even more in my opinion..

  Best UL players can scored 65 at Merion with high winds, tournament greens from championship tees (in practice mode) in single play. So, it is not easy but not impossible either.

  Playing UL is not just finding fairway and make the approach to green, fairways are not flat, easy WGT courses like Kiawah, St George or St. Andrews suddenly show their teeth and make you realize that finding a relative flat spot on the fairway is important for the approach.

  As oneeyedjohn mentioned, you need to go back to basics and understand the Unven Lie feature.

  Hope you find Uneven Lies challenging too....soon.

  Eric

• sammey1 703 Posts

  Mon, Jul 1 2013 10:16 AM

  I like it. It's all about course management. Staying anywhere in the fairway beats anywhere in the rough or sand. It's risk and reward. It's staying patient and getting on greens in regulation, and waiting for breaks and opportunities.  A little like playing a major.

• gr8flbob 592 Posts

  Mon, Jul 1 2013 2:48 PM

  LOLserver:

  Playing UL is not just finding fairway and make the approach to green, fairways are not flat, easy WGT courses like Kiawah, St George or St. Andrews suddenly show their teeth and make you realize that finding a relative flat spot on the fairway is important for the approach.

  As oneeyedjohn mentioned, you need to go back to basics and understand the Unven Lie feature.

  Hope you find Uneven Lies challenging too....soon.

  LOL, You might have added a link to the Uneven Lies Tutorial you began in  Forums » Product Discussions » Game Tips » Uneven lie tutorial. Like most of the UEL threads, 50% of replies are from complainers who have nothing to add on how to conquer UEL. But if interested players take the time to gather the nuggets of good suggestions and hints to be found in informed replies, they will be rewarded. 

  UEL will test your course knowledge and shot-making abilities - it's a better reflection (IMHO) of  what real-life golf really involves, than the always perfect 'Flat-land' lies presented in 'standard' WGT Even lies golf. 

  Those who enjoy the challenges of a more complex game, can adapt and cope by being inventive with club and shot-type selection, and experimenting with using the entire 'hit zone' around the so-called Ding line (both the light-blue 'draw/pull/push/fade' region, AND the dark-blue 'hook/draw' and 'fade/slice' regions, along with the interaction of varying spins with those 'off-ding' hits.  

   

   

• LOLserver 3,522 Posts

  Mon, Jul 1 2013 3:30 PM

  Thanks Bob.

  Your attitude is great and I share it too. Hope many players see the UL the same way we see it...a more complex game than it is with even lies.

  Regards, Eric

• CerinoDevoti 3,232 Posts

  Mon, Jul 1 2013 4:12 PM

  gr8flbob:

  Those who enjoy the challenges of a more complex game, can adapt and cope by being inventive with club and shot-type selection, and experimenting with using the entire 'hit zone' around the so-called Ding line (both the light-blue 'draw/pull/push/fade' region, AND the dark-blue 'hook/draw' and 'fade/slice' regions, along with the interaction of varying spins with those 'off-ding' hits.  

   

  Spectacular explanation. In UEL you're forced to play an intuitive game of options and gambits. You learn a lot more about what the clubs can do rather than expecting the dart to land in the 3 foot circle repeatedly. The main thing to remember is that moving the aimer to compensate for the side lies is simply changing the angle of the clubface to correct for a straight hit at the target. Where you end up aiming doesn't matter as long as the ball goes to the intended target. I always read folks talking about having to aim at the trees or off the course. It doesn't matter a bit as long as the clubface angle has been corrected for the side lie. The distance differences from uphill and downhill lies just takes practice and memory. On a lot of uphill lies I hit punch shots to counteract the greater trajectory angle created from the ground. On downhill lies I use more backspin to raise the trajectory. Once you do it a heck of a lot and take note of results, it's not much different than playing the normal Flatland lies. One thing I got into while learning was watching a lot of replays of my shots. See where the ball lands and take note. Watch approach shots from the camera angle behind the greens. The white trail of the replays gives you a perfect visual on the amount of movement of the ball.

   

  The advise up thread re: playing UEL with starters is the advice I always give to anyone just beginning to play it. It's like when we all first joined. You have the starter clubs and you're not sure what they can do as well as not knowing the courses. Little by little you realize the starters can play the shots better than you expected as you learn where to hit the ball and where to avoid. Frankly, anyone playing UEL for that first time is a UEL Hack. ;)