i want to thank all of the good folks on here who have shared tips and advice,what a wealth of information. kudos to all of you.you all have all helped my game so much.up until a hit tour pro i didnt pay attention to that stuff.hard headed i guess.then a light came on,duh, mabey i better read a bit more. learned a bit at tp,then came the master level ! what a shock that was, had to retrain all over again. took to the forums like a vacum. advice on all the different shots, clubs, balls,how to get yourself out of the trouble that i put myself in.throught a gazillion pratice rounds and trial and error i can finally shoot rounds that make me happy.i will never shoot like you folks up on the tips,i just enjoy shooting a decent round.i dont play tournaments or for credits, just for fun. one bit of advice i really need is how to keep my eyes and trigger finger on the same page,lol.i am 69 years old dont have the reflexs i used to.ok ok iwill quit rambling.THANKS TO ALL