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This game scoring system flawed.

Thu, Nov 14 2013 4:56 AM (68 replies)
  • alexk345
    1,148 Posts
    Sat, Nov 2 2013 8:42 PM

    Real world no one can shoot 10 under that often. So here on average TL courses should be tougher than others. They should have longer distance from TEE or High wind by default.

    At present TOP players has easy condition and make game boring. Legend like me wants to see how TL play and i am seeing easy condition

  • MBaggese
    15,378 Posts
    Sat, Nov 2 2013 9:01 PM

    I shot a 29 in high wind, champ greens at Cabo in TL tourney today...tough enough for me...

     

    PS..tees can't be moved back,,,and winds will always be the same for all players (high/med/low) in a given tourney.

  • alexk345
    1,148 Posts
    Sat, Nov 2 2013 9:21 PM

    What i am saying is average here for TLs are 53-65 range i see. It should be 60-70 range. It should resemble real world scoring. 

    What i am saying is TL condition is easier than legend because with 287 club most legends using wedges ...so its eagle or birdie game now.

    I think they should make TL twice tougher than legend or introduce next level that is really really tough. Also readjust TL average move them to 60s. :)

    People shoot below 60 score once in life time or atleast once few years. Game should resemble real life condition. 

    I do not say random winds... sand trap should be harder , rough should be harder..

    green should be twice speed than championship green may not make mush difference based on what i see from TL is most putts from below 6 feet in most holes.

    Only way to make them inaccurate is cross winds or longer distance. :)

     

     

     

     

     

  • MBaggese
    15,378 Posts
    Sat, Nov 2 2013 9:34 PM

    So what you're saying is:

     

    You and I tee off for 9 holes...

     

    I should be playing in 30mph winds and you play in 15mph winds

     

    My off-fairway rough should be deeper than yours, etc

     

    When we get to the greens I put on ice, and you putt on Tourney speed greens...

     

    Not really a "real life" thing...and wouldn't be fair in single play tourney's either

  • geraldlarousse
    1,986 Posts
    Sat, Nov 2 2013 9:43 PM

    alexk345:

    What i am saying is average here for TLs are 53-65 range i see. It should be 60-70 range. It should resemble real world scoring. 

    What i am saying is TL condition is easier than legend because with 287 club most legends using wedges ...so its eagle or birdie game now.

    I think they should make TL twice tougher than legend or introduce next level that is really really tough. Also readjust TL average move them to 60s. :)

    People shoot below 60 score once in life time or atleast once few years. Game should resemble real life condition. 

    I do not say random winds... sand trap should be harder , rough should be harder..

    green should be twice speed than championship green may not make mush difference based on what i see from TL is most putts from below 6 feet in most holes.

    Only way to make them inaccurate is cross winds or longer distance. :)

    Alex... it is a game. This game will never be like RL golf.

    Also,,, TL's with very low averages do not shoot their average. Their averages are fake. Once you have played 500 ranked rounds as a TL your average only goes down.

    A TL's average is based on their best 500 rounds.

    Another thing is no short cuts to TL. Lots of legends will never be a TL. Changing green speed will also not do anything either. I have not ran across to many TL's that could not putt....lol.

    The game is not easy eagle birdie either mate. Takes plenty time to learn courses and equipment. These players are being rewarded for the time put in.

    If they made the game to where the best players would struggle....... how would you play in these conditions???

    See where i'm going??      :)

  • PeterHopper
    1,315 Posts
    Sat, Nov 2 2013 9:43 PM

    I guess you've been losing too many of those TL challenges you keep asking for.

    Remember the TLs have the same equipment as legends, and you can't move the tees further back as there is no further back.

    Remember TL level is set up for people who have mastered legend level, not for those that have just become legends. On your current average it will take you six months at least to get to TL.

    Keep playing and learning. Play alongside other long term legends. Worry about your game, and not about those that have put thousands of rounds in. Why are you in such a hurry. You are obsessed.

    BTW. I have invited you several times for a game, and you have declined each offer. You either want to play or you don't.

  • geraldlarousse
    1,986 Posts
    Sat, Nov 2 2013 9:48 PM

    There is a player here that has this on his profile, which can not be said better..........

     

    "Don't be upset by the results you didn't get with the work you didn't do"

    Says it all right there.

  • alexk345
    1,148 Posts
    Sat, Nov 2 2013 9:58 PM

    We will play...when u invited i was playing games. Sometime i put it avaiable to recieve invites not to play as i probably playing otherwise i accept invites.

    Actually i am not interested to become TL , i am interested in shooting low scores..i am just comparing. Playing with better players you will have chance to learn what they do right. :)

    For me there is not much difference between legend and TL in conditions (diificulties)  wise. TLs are just better iron players.  May be good at mathematics...faster brain to fingers connection to click where they intend to... :)

     

  • PeterHopper
    1,315 Posts
    Sat, Nov 2 2013 10:34 PM

    We're all interested in shooting low scores. LOL  Most days we can't do it.

    If you post back to back 29's you're doing very well indeed.

    As a pretty good legend; I'll tell you about my scores. 2,000+ ranked rounds - no cheating -

    best 9 is still 27 (X4 all on Beth 9), best 18 in normal conditions 60 (various times, various courses). Best 18 in easy conditions (special WGT tournaments) 54 Beth, 58 Kia, and a few other 58s and 59s.

    One eye opening score in three years (and that is lttle wind off easy tees).

    Most legends and a lot of TLs will have similar experiences. Maybe a few 26s and 57s in their mix up).

    You have two ways to match those top scores.

    Play till your eyes and mouse hand bleed. I mean 20+ rounds a day, every day alone. Most often restarting when you've not got a birdie. Some restart when they haven't eagled a certain hole. Takes notes on every hole, clubs/wind/where to put the approach shot on each green. Have a top computer with no meter glitches, have the best balls and clubs for your game. Have various club sets in your bag - different ones for different courses. Get close to ding on every shot - try playing 9 hole CTTHs and see how often you can hit 9 good approaches (always one hole that screws you up).

    Or use cheat software.

     

    The first is what is needed to break into the elite. Most of us don't have the time or patience to put that work in. And even then we probably wouldn't be good enough - some people are just better.

    It's just like those people who can master a pinball machine or clock Defender. You have to accept you are not one of them. 

     

     

     

     

  • alexk345
    1,148 Posts
    Sun, Nov 3 2013 1:24 AM

    Lets do match play in merion back 9. :)

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