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Nike Iron level 97 or TaylorMade R11?

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Fri, Jan 2 2015 6:50 PM

  1enigma1:

  edit  dont get me wrong i really really like my Nike irons, just seen a lot of top notch players using the R11s got me curious..

  Also don't get me wrong I think the L90 R11s are awesome.  IMO every bit as capable as the L97 Nikes in real world score terms, although the L97s I would say "feel" a bit nicer.

  Comes down to what you want out of the game I guess.  I am an unashamed dart firing merchant who enjoys seeing my ball stick like velcro.  I enjoy it because close to that is pretty well essential, in my mind, to give yourself a chance in RGs.  G10s and a WGT ball might be great fun, but gonna be the donation kid in a RG doing it that way, no question about that.

  FWIW I tried the L85s for a friend using the L34 Cally (made vid for him).  Think I shot 29 at Beth F9 full RR pretty quick (Bandicam jumping me about), and so I can say great clubs.  IMO the L90s are a step up feeling higher trajectory, and that spin makes a difference too and forgiveness is also fine.  If you have ever used the L79 Blades then IMO they are the L90s R11s closest cousin if less forgiving than the L90s (when miss wrong side at all).  That  R11 extra spin though really does mean you must stick to one ball (especially if a Nike), as pixel differences in spin setting will equal large differences in distance, and more spin if used / loft can accentuate miss penalty too  with wind (even more so with L97s).  How the wind affects flight distance with spin also takes more time to learn (same as with L97s really but even more so then - ferocious spin with a Nike L90 ball).  The R11 L90s faster meter can't be ignored with what you originally said (way I picked it up anyway) that's all, and the L85 Nikes are v capable of winning Legend Tier RGs anyway................Good luck with whichever way you go.

• skccvb 799 Posts

  Fri, Jan 2 2015 7:19 PM

  ADD is a condition that is treatable Jimbo....lol

• 1enigma1 486 Posts

  Fri, Jan 2 2015 7:49 PM

  Jimbog1964:

  Also don't get me wrong I think the L90 R11s are awesome.  IMO every bit as capable as the L97 Nikes in real world score terms, although the L97s I would say "feel" a bit nicer.

  Comes down to what you want out of the game I guess.  I am an unashamed dart firing merchant who enjoys seeing my ball stick like velcro.  I enjoy it because close to that is pretty well essential, in my mind, to give yourself a chance in RGs

  As i find this great game so similar to "real life" golf, judging wind, green speed &  choosing club selection ,even having great mates in a country club is probably why a lot of us play WGT , & of course our competitive nature as humans has us always wanting improvement either (work or sport related) :-) , i really like the RG*s and have played a lot while tiering up , never once mapping my clubs thats probably why ive put up just some avg scores ,time to DIAL in my distances to be more consistent  , so im off to map and practice and more important have FUN!  ...   TY again for your insight cheers!   

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Fri, Jan 2 2015 9:59 PM

  The top level Nike Irons won't stop a dime, if anybody says that, they are kidding ya....lol

  A flop shot with full b/spin will take a bounce and stop....  the Nikes won't do that.

  Top Level Nike Irons are great, slower meter speed than the R11 irons so you can get away using better balls than the Max's....  Actually those Max's are pretty good darn balls.

  -Roger

   

   

• siggipj76 2,989 Posts

  Fri, Jan 2 2015 10:20 PM

  mantis0014:

  The top level Nike Irons won't stop a dime, if anybody says that, they are kidding ya....lol

  A flop shot with full b/spin will take a bounce and stop....  the Nikes won't do that.

  Top Level Nike Irons are great, slower meter speed than the R11 irons so you can get away using better balls than the Max's....  Actually those Max's are pretty good darn balls.

  -Roger

   

   

  Roger how many times have you flopped with the nike irons ?

  I am off to Beth 10-12 to map those flops !!!  will bring results later !

  LOL Just kidding ;) 

  let me in on that secret !! 

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sat, Jan 3 2015 12:26 AM

  Look just talking irons places like back pin Merion B9 you gotta hit position A1 perfect to stop dead or close to and that's not happening too often.  Couple of holes at Andys (particularly high winds up rear) got to have some luck if fire at the exact landing spot, but short of that those L97 Nikes  around places like Beth, not 1 pin is an issue - not 1.  R11s v close with L81 ball which I played with them.  Even Andys #17 you can usually get close to even the rear pin 90% of the time - what I see.

  Normal conditions, well below done v quick and without much thought to be honest.  OK champ greens and slightly above but even that there is a not much break hard to miss one.

  L97 4 iron and L90 Nike Beth #10:

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  Whilst on my channel also saw this one (may be of interest (L70 Versa; 85 Nikesl Cally 34).  A still very efficient set up IMO:

  R11s and L81 ball not far behind even the L97s.  (I tend to use a different just as quick 3 second wind wind calc these days as well as much more reverse pitch view for putting / shallower meter scales although at Beth not hard anyway).

  Last one here:)

  RSG whilst at it, lol:

  I don't usually post my vids here in the main forums as leave that for the top players , but shows enough for what we are talking about I think.

  Those L97 Nikes with the L90 ball will stick pretty close just about everywhere.  Yeah OK a very few holes, on harder courses, and especially in certain conditions still have to allow some good run,  unless really go for gold sticking wise, but really though there is a huge difference to some other combos generally IMO.  R11s not far behind the Nikes at all - v v close in fact (L81 ball in mind).  BTW yes it is Bandicam that can make the meter that  jumpy, not usually like that (some ask if new).  That black slomo ball with the R11s I know some have used to great effect and with no spin. Whether that's worthwhile these days with the choices, no clue and leave that to others to decide. My grip and rip it quick play style getting close as possible with air travel never suited that (yes I play too quick for my own good sometimes).

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Sat, Jan 3 2015 2:22 AM

  siggipj76:

  Roger how many times have you flopped with the nike irons ?

  Ahhh...  I would say never.  Maybe badly worded,  Just saying people say their Irons will stop on a dime when hitting the green  which is really not true. So I used that comparison... saying a Flop shot using my Cal's, will bounce and stop dead with full B/Spin.. vs  Irons will bounce and run on a little bit.

  Yes, the Nike Irons can bounce on green and slow up really quick and are a very good set of clubs..  Recommended for anybody, but takes some time to get the hang of em.

  Jimbog1964:

  I don't usually post my vids here in the main forums

  Great vids mate :)

  -Roger

• 1enigma1 486 Posts

  Sat, Jan 3 2015 12:48 PM

  Great  vids, the level 85 Nikes & level 70 Versa is my setup and shows the Callys can be just as effective as the Nike balls ; ) interesting use of t/s & b/s on your shots too and your use of different meter scales while putting all great food for thought , as 4 the R11s i can see their very effective but i will wait till i can try them first seeing that i should be able to post some great scores with my current setup,  good stuff thx 4 sharing ....                               :edit   I can hear my old H.S golf coach saying "your thinking to much just play your shot" LOL   but here on WGT  all the extra info and insight is very helpful   :-)   ...

• derekortt 682 Posts

  Thu, Jan 8 2015 8:27 PM

  got the L97 Nike irons and I have found in my little more than a day of having them that they are marginally better than the R11s. A bit more precise, but little spin or forgiveness differences.

   

  One thing I am struggling with is the slower meter. I am pulling everything slightly