saltiresfan:Funny you should say that about champ greens. I now use the same ratio as for tourny greens with the only difference being that I take more off on downhills.
Under 10 foot and not downhill so do I 95% of the time. Above 10 foot, downhill or where you can't get away with running 3 feet past I do adjust. I seldom have the stopping short issue as I am very firm by default.
Separately the new Nike irons:
Spin makes them very sensitive to any wind, and on holes that play short or long anyway that spin can also show up that variance even more anyway even before the wind is factored.
When they were first issued they were going off line for me and several others (huge thread on that), but that stopped. WTFs will always happen bot that aside the Nikes seem very capable irons.
Turning up with a yardage chart that was prepared using just Beth #s 10, 11 and 12 and playing just Beth you would be on a hiding to nothing elsewhere IMO, but that's a learning curve. I see no inconsistency in distance once that task is accomplished, but it is a task that has to be gone through. If pushed I am not always convinced it should be such a task as I don't always see the reason at certain holes, but the shots remain consistent once you have them.
Anyone just playing A/S and like I say just carding scores from Beth you would be unlikely to see it.
Also (and interestingly to me) the Nikes seem to have almost been designed and tested with the L33 Cally ball I will say that. It's hard to make that ball do too much wrong with them, but the reasons (each to their own) some prefer a different ball (for their game) do not go away...That different ball though (Nikes anyway) the greater learning curve that these irons then insist on for whatever reason has to be accepted. Like I said (if pushed at still 90% only mapped for all holes) I am not convinced that is always rightly, but it is nonetheless consistent if executed properly.
I say all that noting that I do like play a fair amount of spin which I think should be stated.