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Game behavior if last "good" ball lost or broken

• DaveStrock 919 Posts

  Fri, Mar 14 2014 11:39 PM

  BUMP

• Chinajohn 1,190 Posts

  Fri, Mar 14 2014 11:53 PM

  Richard4168:

  Will the World Golf Tour game-play ever be for everyone equally without complaint? My goodness!

  Its amazing how so many people can complain about the most minuscule things within this game. The game physics work well for so many people.

  I vote these complaining threads be stricken from the forums. The players experiencing problems should be automatically routed to worldgolftour.com. Three out of five threads are complaint threads. Enough already.

  Icon and shoe should be on these malcontent threads double time.

  Bollox said it best in his interview with the Golf channel. Here's an excerpt.

  "Too often players place blame on the random deviations that are a part of the game for their poor results on a particular shot or round," he said. "If a shot doesn't work out well, make a note of it and consider that there may be a more optimal way of playing the shot rather than getting worked up about it."

  This just covers a small part of what both newer and older players complain about.

  Come on WGT, make the forums a place of fellowship and camaraderie among golfers who love this game and have a good experience playing. Not a place for a few people to complain that in the end only puts a stain on the whole of a great game.

   

  And so dies free speech!

  You are as free to voice your opinion as the complainers are, regardless of what I or others may think of your opinion (or that of the complainers).

  It would be a VERY sad day indeed when that most basic of rights is curtailed in this forum.

   

• courteneyfish 15,796 Posts

  Sat, Mar 15 2014 12:11 AM

  Well done Mr Air Pirate. You swerved both my questions. To be given a basic ball you have to ignore reminders that you are on your last ball of that type. It's so much easier to carry a good supply of balls. It costs no more in the long run.

• borntobesting 9,679 Posts

  Sat, Mar 15 2014 2:00 AM

  courteneyfish:

  Well done Mr Air Pirate. You swerved both my questions. To be given a basic ball you have to ignore reminders that you are on your last ball of that type. It's so much easier to carry a good supply of balls. It costs no more in the long run.

  Actually it may cost less in the long run. Meaning if you get stuck with the starter ball in a tourney that you had a shot at winning and you play poorly with the starter and fall out of contention you are out credits that you could have and should have won. 

• srellim234 2,077 Posts

  Sat, Mar 15 2014 7:05 AM

  borntobesting:

  Actually it may cost less in the long run. Meaning if you get stuck with the starter ball in a tourney that you had a shot at winning and you play poorly with the starter and fall out of contention you are out credits that you could have and should have won. 

  It definitely costs more to the player who drops out when stuck with the starter ball. They paid to use those hits without posting a score in the round they abandoned.

  Much less effort and a lot less stress to just make sure you always have 3 or 4 sleeves of the ball you want to play before you tee off on #1.

• srellim234 2,077 Posts

  Sat, Mar 15 2014 7:25 AM

  YankeeAirPirate:

  What's telling is WGT's constant allusion to making WGT as close to "real" golf as possible. So then, who in their right might, after blowing through a new sleeve of, oh say, Pro V1 balls, will dig to the bottom of their ball pouch and come out with the rattiest, deadest ball they own? 

  No one. On any professional tour and most higher level amateur competitions the player reaches for another sleeve of Pro V1s or is disqualified. Reaching for another brand of ball in the bag is not an option.

  WGT at least extends the opportunity to complete the round with the ball of their choice instead of just forcing you to forfeit or be disqualified for not stocking your bag properly.

  Substitutions should be allowed in practice. Substitutions should be at the discretion of the tournament director in country club tourneys. WGT is the tournament committee in all other competitions and is allowed to leave the current rule in place for those. That's what is in the rules of golf if WGT really intends to stick closely to real life golf.

  However, the rules of a golf-themed video game developed and run by WGT allow WGT to do whatever it wants.

• YankeeAirPirate 124 Posts

  Sat, Mar 15 2014 6:41 PM

  Richard4168:

  Come on WGT, make the forums a place of fellowship and camaraderie among golfers who love this game and have a good experience playing. Not a place for a few people to complain that in the end only puts a stain on the whole of a great game.

   

  I get the feeling that many who post here in this forum are either, in real life when not accommodating WGT, are government bureaucrats, students or other members of acdemia, or are posting in from a socialist-communist country where one doesn't dare try to improve their environment because, hey, government/the university/Dear Leder knows best. Here's a news flash for you. WGT is a gold mine of a businss. It has an attractive and enjoyable product that players pay to play with and it sells high-doller advertising all over the site. Its overhead consists of web servers, programming and technical/office staff, and maybe some royalties to pay the various courses. Other than that, these golf balls we're squabbling about represent ZERO overhead to WGT. A golf ball, golf club and all this stuff doesn't reallyexist -- they are a code snips. And you only have to code a golf ball once. Want to introduce a new flavor of Nike ball? Just tweak the code snip for an existing ball, and bingo. Three minutes work for a competent programmer and you have a new all you can charge an additional 100-150 credits for. And don't bother giving these more expensive balls even 0.5 more service life, these sheeple will just keep buying them up and whining about "complainers" who dare point out the money grubbing gouge of it all. I'm a business owner, not a sheeple. I know if my customers point out a problem or deficiency or just plain ol' dissatisfaction in a product, feel like they're not getting their money's worth, the stupidest thing I could possibly do as a business owner is to tell them to take it or leave it, and quit yer whining. The fact that WGT seems to have zero interest in customer/player satisfaction could only mean that they are making billions hand over fist and they really just don't need to give a chit about payer satisfaction. That probably IS the case here, and so long as all the sheeple and WGT shills act as buffer, and cheerleaders, for WGT, they'll feel no financial pressures to improve. Presuming WGT does monitor some of the complaints in these forums, they may at least get some feedback as to when the gouge is about to cause a rupture. So, in that case, Richard4168, asking WGT to police out the complainers so these forums can be placid little flocks of sheeple fellowshiping with each other is the stuff of juveniles who are oblivious to how real life, real business, really works. Me, I'm going to see if I get any sensible response from WGT ("take it or leave it" NOT being considered a sensible response) regarding the pathetic Mayfly-like longevity of imaginary golf balls (code snips) that cost $6 and $7 a sleeve. Seriously, it shouldln't take a whole lot of business experience to recognize an insulting gouge when you see one. And how does the consumer/player fight back if the business thumbs their nose at them? Social Media. Start hammering WGT in Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and they'll assuredly see a drop in new sign-ups, a drop in game play, and other red flag signals about that precious bottom line. THEN we might see some consideration. Money talks and sheeple walk. 

• YankeeAirPirate 124 Posts

  Sat, Mar 15 2014 6:53 PM

  courteneyfish:

  Well done Mr Air Pirate. You swerved both my questions. To be given a basic ball you have to ignore reminders that you are on your last ball of that type. It's so much easier to carry a good supply of balls. It costs no more in the long run.

  Yes, you've recited how things are quite precisely. But you've swerved the issue entirely as far as the topic of this thread. Here's the deal. I have probably a dozen miscellaneous "decent" balls in my inventory. Some are sponsor balls (play a tournament, get a free ball), some are other balls I've tried and still have 1 or 2 left. How are those balls ever to see useful service? You wouldn't dare start a tournament with a single ball, the last one of that kind in your inventory. The most logical way would be to allow the player to SELECT one of those balls when the last "good" ball is lost or broken. Again, in REAL golf (USGA, not necessarily PGA) a player might buy a sleeve of Pro V-1 balls at the pro shop for a round of golf. And believe it or not, a sleeve of Pro V-1s might be ll he could afford at the time. Somewhere after the turn, the last of the Pro-V1s is lost.  In the ball pouch are shag balls, found Pink Ladies and some other "decent" golf balls. The current system at WGT equates to forcing you to use the dead, cut up old shag balls. So, tell me. How does that square with REAL golf?

• Chinajohn 1,190 Posts

  Sat, Mar 15 2014 8:18 PM

  YankeeAirPirate:

  Richard4168:

  Come on WGT, make the forums a place of fellowship and camaraderie among golfers who love this game and have a good experience playing. Not a place for a few people to complain that in the end only puts a stain on the whole of a great game.

   

   

  I get the feeling that many who post here in this forum are either, in real life when not accommodating WGT, are government bureaucrats, students or other members of acdemia, or are posting in from a socialist-communist country where one doesn't dare try to improve their environment because, hey, government/the university/Dear Leder knows best. Here's a news flash for you. WGT is a gold mine of a businss. It has an attractive and enjoyable product that players pay to play with and it sells high-doller advertising all over the site. Its overhead consists of web servers, programming and technical/office staff, and maybe some royalties to pay the various courses. Other than that, these golf balls we're squabbling about represent ZERO overhead to WGT. A golf ball, golf club and all this stuff doesn't reallyexist -- they are a code snips. And you only have to code a golf ball once. Want to introduce a new flavor of Nike ball? Just tweak the code snip for an existing ball, and bingo. Three minutes work for a competent programmer and you have a new all you can charge an additional 100-150 credits for. And don't bother giving these more expensive balls even 0.5 more service life, these sheeple will just keep buying them up and whining about "complainers" who dare point out the money grubbing gouge of it all. I'm a business owner, not a sheeple. I know if my customers point out a problem or deficiency or just plain ol' dissatisfaction in a product, feel like they're not getting their money's worth, the stupidest thing I could possibly do as a business owner is to tell them to take it or leave it, and quit yer whining. The fact that WGT seems to have zero interest in customer/player satisfaction could only mean that they are making billions hand over fist and they really just don't need to give a chit about payer satisfaction. That probably IS the case here, and so long as all the sheeple and WGT shills act as buffer, and cheerleaders, for WGT, they'll feel no financial pressures to improve. Presuming WGT does monitor some of the complaints in these forums, they may at least get some feedback as to when the gouge is about to cause a rupture. So, in that case, Richard4168, asking WGT to police out the complainers so these forums can be placid little flocks of sheeple fellowshiping with each other is the stuff of juveniles who are oblivious to how real life, real business, really works. Me, I'm going to see if I get any sensible response from WGT ("take it or leave it" NOT being considered a sensible response) regarding the pathetic Mayfly-like longevity of imaginary golf balls (code snips) that cost $6 and $7 a sleeve. Seriously, it shouldln't take a whole lot of business experience to recognize an insulting gouge when you see one. And how does the consumer/player fight back if the business thumbs their nose at them? Social Media. Start hammering WGT in Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and they'll assuredly see a drop in new sign-ups, a drop in game play, and other red flag signals about that precious bottom line. THEN we might see some consideration. Money talks and sheeple walk. 

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