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5.5 ft power putt from fringe goes 4 inches...

• CharlemagneRH 1,054 Posts

  Thu, Sep 23 2010 7:09 AM

  http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=b623c8fb-3769-4440-b403-9dfa00e8ed0d

   

   

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Thu, Sep 23 2010 7:35 AM

  Unless you mis-typed the topic what did you expect? I wasn't aware there is a 10-12" drop from that spot so why were you hitting 5.5 ft? Those Championship greens aren't that fast.

• CharlemagneRH 1,054 Posts

  Thu, Sep 23 2010 7:36 AM

  Oh, and the pop-up white text that comes up after your ball stops moving told me that it stopped on the fringe.  On top of that, the front view appears to show that i am only about 4 -- maybe 6 -- inches into the fringe.

  If this putt is not from the fringe, then you need to change the graphic down at the lower right to say "FRINGE" on it, which would allow people to make sure that they are indeed on the fringe.

• CharlemagneRH 1,054 Posts

  Thu, Sep 23 2010 7:37 AM

  YankeeJim:

  Unless you mis-typed the topic what did you expect? I wasn't aware there is a 10-12" drop from that spot so why were you hitting 5.5 ft? Those Championship greens aren't that fast.

  The drop in height was indeed exactly 10 inches.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Thu, Sep 23 2010 7:43 AM

  OK, so you're putting to 8 feet on superfast greens from the fringe and you play it like a normal putt? Operator error, for sure.

• EllisSpice 871 Posts

  Thu, Sep 23 2010 8:30 AM

  CharlemagneRH:

  This is a bug.

  No, it isn't. I do this all of the time. Unless you add extra power, that ball isn't going as far as you think it will. Just because it's the fringe doesn't mean it's putting material. That's why there's the green.

  Next time, just chip.

• CharlemagneRH 1,054 Posts

  Thu, Sep 23 2010 8:38 AM

  EllisSpice:

  CharlemagneRH:

  This is a bug.

  No, it isn't. I do this all of the time. Unless you add extra power, that ball isn't going as far as you think it will. Just because it's the fringe doesn't mean it's putting material. That's why there's the green.

  Next time, just chip.

  I did add extra power to my putt.

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Thu, Sep 23 2010 8:54 AM

  CharlemagneRH:

  I did add extra power to my putt.

  Not enough extra power.  You need a minimum of 8 to 9 ft of power to get a ball off the fringe.  I've experimented with that exact same putt many times.  More info on my post here.

• BolloxInBruges 1,389 Posts

  Thu, Sep 23 2010 9:43 AM

  I have hit putts with more than 9 feet of power and had them not move at all in the fringe,  as much as I hate to agree with anything charle says, I will agree that the fringes are completely fucked on WGT.

  Literally 1% difference in power can be the difference between going 15 feet and not leaving the fringe.   The fringe was manageable on the old greens, but now, its a complete joke as our speed is much more critical.

• CharlemagneRH 1,054 Posts

  Thu, Sep 23 2010 10:01 AM

  andyson:

  CharlemagneRH:

  I did add extra power to my putt.

  Not enough extra power.  You need a minimum of 8 to 9 ft of power to get a ball off the fringe.  I've experimented with that exact same putt many times.  More info on my post here.

  If true, that is not at all realistic.

  I should be able to putt from 4" into the fringe without being forced to put in 9 ft of power and go 15 ft past the hole.

   

  Complaints about it being too hard to know whether to add 1, 2, or 3 ft onto a putt from the fringe (depending on how much fringe must be crossed in order to reach the green) are only somewhat legitimate on the grounds that the graphical display of terrain cannot be trusted to accurately reflect the data that it is supposed to represent (or vice versa,) but this bug (whatever it is -- I am not sure if this is a fringe mechanics bug or a rogue piece of rough that is, for whatever reason, on the green) is completely unrealistic and ridiculous.  Under no circumstances should a putt on the fringe go less distance than a putt on a fairway.