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Road Hole

• JasonBlazer 2,246 Posts

  Mon, Apr 28 2014 1:45 PM

  Has the pin location at the Road Hole ever changed? Just curious as to the thought process on PLs ( on any course, just mentioned SA17 because I don't think I've seen it anywhere else) works....

• BOXALL 140 Posts

  Mon, Apr 28 2014 1:55 PM

  The Road Hole does have two sets of pins, one around the centre of the green and the other back left behind the bunker. Definitely only one set of pins at Royal St. Georges which I've always thought odd.

• JasonBlazer 2,246 Posts

  Mon, Apr 28 2014 2:34 PM

  Ok, you got me there, I've never seen it except back left...and why not more pin locs, is it a programming issue? After all, you can select "easy, medium, hard" holes on practice....

• JasonBlazer 2,246 Posts

  Mon, Apr 28 2014 2:35 PM

  Ok, you got me there, I've never seen it except back left...and why not more pin locs, is it a programming issue? After all, you can select "easy, medium, hard" holes on practice....

• alosso 21,072 Posts

  Mon, Apr 28 2014 2:47 PM

  "easy, medium, hard" says nothing, you may still get all pin locations.

  In general, pin locations are severely limited due to the necessary photos from all putting angles around the positions. They had to allow for special provision of these. I'd guess that all genuine WGT stroke play courses have two sets now, perhaps more for the newer ones. I remember the discussion when the second set for KIA was published - this being the first full course ever, they only photographed one pin set and had to squeeze the second set from reserve photos. Therefore some putts only have lesser quality set-ups.

  The Best of courses and Trugolf courses only have one pin set AFAIK.

• JasonBlazer 2,246 Posts

  Mon, Apr 28 2014 4:38 PM

  Ok, thanks, that makes sense and is understandible. Appreciate your reply!

• CerinoDevoti 3,232 Posts

  Mon, Apr 28 2014 5:48 PM

  I've been under the impression that "easy", "medium" and "hard" pin positions were in relation to the wind speed and direction on a particular hole. On certain courses and holes, Easy and Hard pins are the same one but the wind speed and direction completely changes how the hole plays. Into the wind with a front guarded pin and with the wind to the same front guarded pin are the differences I see as Easy or Hard.

  Re: the Road Hole, I'm kinda amazed you've only seen the back left pin. I usually get the middle pin and only rarely get the back left pin.

• courteneyfish 15,796 Posts

  Mon, Apr 28 2014 9:37 PM

  Medium pins is just a mixture of hard and easy.

• andwhy67 2,816 Posts

  Mon, Apr 28 2014 10:02 PM

  Back pin from the fescue 

• alosso 21,072 Posts

  Mon, Apr 28 2014 11:23 PM

  courteneyfish:

  Medium pins is just a mixture of hard and easy.

  I understand that you think "hard" and "easy" denote the different sets? R u sure?

  Once I tried a comparison between the pin settings (from the tips) at KIA#9.

  1) I set up a practice round "hardest tees", "easy pins", played eight holes, at #9, the front pin was present. o.k.

  2) New round, "hardest tees", "hard pins", played eight holes (yawn), expected the new back pin at #9, only to find the front pin again.

  Thus my statement remains unchanged:

  "easy, medium, hard" says nothing, you may still get all pin locations.